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Yes, it is, or at least close enough that you should be considering it. http://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/ier/hu62oef5uc0u8riu78usp26r/ie-1-1918-10

by nwh 13y ago

Yes, it is, or at least close enough that you should be considering it. http://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/ier/hu62oef5uc0u8riu78usp26r/ie-1-1918-10194-en.pdf http://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/ier/hu62oef5uc... gTLD can also contain punnycode/unicode now, which additionally breaks your regex in another way.

huhtenberg 13y ago
"Close enough" doesn't count :)
- nwh 13y ago
  It does for all the irritated people that can't use their new domains on the tens of thousands of systems with rigid regex like this. Even if it's not breaking anything today, it's certain it will in the future.
  - huhtenberg 13y ago
    It "doesn't count" for melborne TLD that currently sits in the "Initial Preapproval" state. -- But more generally, you just don't want to hear what I'm saying. Right now, people do NOT use email addresses with internationalized domains, they do NOT put trailing periods in domain names, etc. Once they start doing that, the regex can be adjusted to accommodate for that on first false rejection. As it exists now, the regex is tailored exactly to how emails are used now, by real humans. A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention. Feel free to support that transparently, but the question is why would you want to do that.
    - vidarh 13y ago
      > for that on first false rejection. This assumes that you manually verify every rejection, or that they contact you. In other words: Either you're not using this anywhere with volume that matters, or you don't know that it hasn't caught false negatives. > A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention High volume of negatives is an indication of bot activity or some other oddity. A single or handful of negatives is just humans going about their business as horrible typists. If your volume is small enough that you can treat every negative as something to investigate, you really have no basis for saying anything about how well your regex works.
      - huhtenberg 13y ago
        It's not the Gmail-level volume, but it's an email per day either. And yet there is still very few negatives, so it is possible to go through them by hand. Vast majority falls into "fafafa" and "test@test" category. The remainder is typos, e.g. commas instead of periods.
    - ronaldx 13y ago
      > A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention. Feel free to support that transparently, but the question is why would you want to do that. Why?: It's very bad UX to say to a human "we don't support you because we think you just might be a bot".
    - nwh 13y ago
      I did actually use an interesting domain for a little while, but got completely fed up of it being rejected everywhere.

by nwh 13y ago

huhtenberg 13y ago

"Close enough" doesn't count :)

nwh 13y ago
It does for all the irritated people that can't use their new domains on the tens of thousands of systems with rigid regex like this. Even if it's not breaking anything today, it's certain it will in the future.
- huhtenberg 13y ago
  It "doesn't count" for melborne TLD that currently sits in the "Initial Preapproval" state. -- But more generally, you just don't want to hear what I'm saying. Right now, people do NOT use email addresses with internationalized domains, they do NOT put trailing periods in domain names, etc. Once they start doing that, the regex can be adjusted to accommodate for that on first false rejection. As it exists now, the regex is tailored exactly to how emails are used now, by real humans. A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention. Feel free to support that transparently, but the question is why would you want to do that.
  - vidarh 13y ago
    > for that on first false rejection. This assumes that you manually verify every rejection, or that they contact you. In other words: Either you're not using this anywhere with volume that matters, or you don't know that it hasn't caught false negatives. > A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention High volume of negatives is an indication of bot activity or some other oddity. A single or handful of negatives is just humans going about their business as horrible typists. If your volume is small enough that you can treat every negative as something to investigate, you really have no basis for saying anything about how well your regex works.
    - huhtenberg 13y ago
      It's not the Gmail-level volume, but it's an email per day either. And yet there is still very few negatives, so it is possible to go through them by hand. Vast majority falls into "fafafa" and "test@test" category. The remainder is typos, e.g. commas instead of periods.
  - ronaldx 13y ago
    > A negative is an indication of a bot activity or some other oddity that needs attention. Feel free to support that transparently, but the question is why would you want to do that. Why?: It's very bad UX to say to a human "we don't support you because we think you just might be a bot".
  - nwh 13y ago
    I did actually use an interesting domain for a little while, but got completely fed up of it being rejected everywhere.