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Do you have a source for the claim that the NSA has cracked thirty VPN providers? The only source I've seen so far that makes any similar claim was the cryptome

Do you have a source for the claim that the NSA has cracked thirty VPN providers? The only source I've seen so far that makes any similar claim was the cryptome.org document for prosecutors which was a hoax.

alan_cx 13y ago
Stop this "do you have evidence" lark. We are not talking scientific review or non US court here. All people are doing is applying the same logic and standards governments and spy agencies do. Is there any evidence that the WHOLE of the US and rest of the planet's public are traitors and terrorists? No. But they could be, right? Best not take a chance, right? "We" can do it, it is possible, so "they might be doing it. And so on. So, the NSA can or could compromise tor nodes, we know it is possible, so why take the risk? Especially if you are, say, Snowden or a freedom advocate.
- sillysaurus2 13y ago
  They were just curious... It's probably good to insist on sources. I should've provided one originally anyway: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?pagewanted=4&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet...
eliasmacpherson 13y ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?pagewanted=4&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet... ctrl-f VPN. What is the cryptome document for prosectors that you refer to?
- eliasmacpherson 13y ago
  I now assume you mean this: http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013-hoax.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013-hoax.pdf That's a pretty obvious hoax, detective "Stu Pitt" and "Laughlin Foo". It's good that it was quickly labelled as such.
frank_boyd 13y ago
Actually, there are... 1. VPNs using PPTP 2. VPNs using OpenVPN 1) should not be used anymore, it is more vulnerable by design (intercept the initial handshake and you're set; the NSA slides referred to a feature "Show VPN startups", which is probably what they meant by that). So my guess is that when the say "we've cracked VPNs", it's probably PPTP VPNs, but then again, nobody knows for sure.

alan_cx 13y ago

Stop this "do you have evidence" lark. We are not talking scientific review or non US court here. All people are doing is applying the same logic and standards governments and spy agencies do. Is there any evidence that the WHOLE of the US and rest of the planet's public are traitors and terrorists? No. But they could be, right? Best not take a chance, right? "We" can do it, it is possible, so "they might be doing it. And so on. So, the NSA can or could compromise tor nodes, we know it is possible, so why take the risk? Especially if you are, say, Snowden or a freedom advocate.

sillysaurus2 13y ago
They were just curious... It's probably good to insist on sources. I should've provided one originally anyway: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?pagewanted=4&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet...

eliasmacpherson 13y ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?pagewanted=4&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet... ctrl-f VPN. What is the cryptome document for prosectors that you refer to?

eliasmacpherson 13y ago
I now assume you mean this: http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013-hoax.pdf http://cryptome.org/2013/09/computer-forensics-2013-hoax.pdf That's a pretty obvious hoax, detective "Stu Pitt" and "Laughlin Foo". It's good that it was quickly labelled as such.

frank_boyd 13y ago

Actually, there are... 1. VPNs using PPTP 2. VPNs using OpenVPN 1) should not be used anymore, it is more vulnerable by design (intercept the initial handshake and you're set; the NSA slides referred to a feature "Show VPN startups", which is probably what they meant by that). So my guess is that when the say "we've cracked VPNs", it's probably PPTP VPNs, but then again, nobody knows for sure.