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Shouldn't they be normalizing the percentages? i.e.,they should be looking at percentage of non-whites who camp (denominator total number of non-whites) as oppo

by sksk 13y ago

Shouldn't they be normalizing the percentages? i.e.,they should be looking at percentage of non-whites who camp (denominator total number of non-whites) as opposed to percentage of people who camp who happened to be non-white. If a minority represents only 0.01% of the entire population, odds of finding them camping is going to be very low unless that said activity is something very, very common amongst that ethnic group. Having said that, I somehow do not see a lot of African Americans when I hike/camp.

clarkm 13y ago
While this article is just a rewrite of a similar one from today's NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/national-parks-try-to-appeal-to-minorities.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/national-parks-try-to-a...), I appreciate that it contains some additional data, even though it doesn't relate specifically to National Park visits. The NYT article only states that "about one in five visitors to a national park site is nonwhite... and only about 1 in 10 is Hispanic", which definitely points to Hispanics being underrepresented, since they make up 16.3% of the general population. But they don't include any more specifics, which makes me think the discrepancy couldn't be that big.
- georgeoliver 13y ago
  Keeping in mind that non-Hispanic/Latino whites are about 60% of the US population, when this article notes that "the Outdoor Industry Association [...] own nonprofit organization, [the] Outdoor Foundation, shows underwhelming diversity. Its 2013 outdoor participation report notes that last year, 70 percent of participants were white.", it's hard for me to take the rest of this article seriously.
GauntletWizard 13y ago
I love how breathlessly the article reports that "40 percent of outdoor participants come from households with incomes of $75,000 or more". If you take a look at some simple income graphs[1], it's fairly obvious why that is: Because nearly 40% of the population makes that much. Their education table is similarly ridiculous[2]. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distribution_1947-2007.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distr... [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States#cite_ref-3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_U...

by sksk 13y ago

clarkm 13y ago

While this article is just a rewrite of a similar one from today's NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/national-parks-try-to-appeal-to-minorities.html http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/national-parks-try-to-a...), I appreciate that it contains some additional data, even though it doesn't relate specifically to National Park visits. The NYT article only states that "about one in five visitors to a national park site is nonwhite... and only about 1 in 10 is Hispanic", which definitely points to Hispanics being underrepresented, since they make up 16.3% of the general population. But they don't include any more specifics, which makes me think the discrepancy couldn't be that big.

georgeoliver 13y ago
Keeping in mind that non-Hispanic/Latino whites are about 60% of the US population, when this article notes that "the Outdoor Industry Association [...] own nonprofit organization, [the] Outdoor Foundation, shows underwhelming diversity. Its 2013 outdoor participation report notes that last year, 70 percent of participants were white.", it's hard for me to take the rest of this article seriously.

GauntletWizard 13y ago

I love how breathlessly the article reports that "40 percent of outdoor participants come from households with incomes of $75,000 or more". If you take a look at some simple income graphs[1], it's fairly obvious why that is: Because nearly 40% of the population makes that much. Their education table is similarly ridiculous[2]. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distribution_1947-2007.svg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Income_Distr... [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States#cite_ref-3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_U...