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FWIW, you have an incorrect understanding of what your 4th amendment rights actually are.
by harryh 13y ago
FWIW, you have an incorrect understanding of what your 4th amendment rights actually are.
- cliffu 13y agoNo, congress and the tech companies have the incorrect understanding that phone calls and emails going through a third party gives that third party consent to share them with the government.
- mpyne 13y agoIf that's an incorrect understanding, it's an incorrect understanding that the EFF also shares, just so you know: https://ssd.eff.org/your-computer/govt/privacy https://ssd.eff.org/your-computer/govt/privacy
- cliffu 13y agoYes, I'm being flippant with the terminology. I know that to be true but strongly disagree that we should have no reasonable expectation of privacy for emails. Telephone calls go through a third party and they are covered.
- mpyne 13y agoYes, but telephone calls are covered because Congress passed a law making it so, not because of a Supreme Court ruling per se. Separate laws had to be passed to protect cell phone calls, beepers, etc.
- rdl 13y ago4A as it has been interpreted is woefully inadequate for privacy protections in the modern world. Absent a complete change in how the courts do this, we need laws like ECPA (but better), technical countermeasures and a strikedown of laws like CALEA (which is unconstitutional already), or a constitutional amendment explicitly protecting privacy. Or all 3.