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Please re-read my original comment. I did say cars. I wouldn't buy an AM because I need a 4 door sedan for my lifestyle. Yet, isn't it useful to know that it i
by umsm 13y ago
Please re-read my original comment. I did say cars.
I wouldn't buy an AM because I need a 4 door sedan for my lifestyle. Yet, isn't it useful to know that it is as refined as a high-end sports car?
- sliverstorm 13y agoI did say cars. Fine. So you'd be interested to see the Tesla compared to a WRC car, and you would find it useful to hear that the Tesla can pull higher g's on an asphalt skidpad and has a nicer interior? isn't it useful to know that it is as refined as a high-end sports car You got that out of this video? They barely even mention fit-and-finish. The main focus between the two is the acceleration comparison, which says zilch about refinement.
- jlgreco 13y ago"So you'd be interested to see the Tesla compared to a WRC car, and you would find it useful to hear that the Tesla can pull higher g's on an asphalt skidpad and has a nicer interior?" Sure, I'd read that article. Throw the Tesla onto a dirt track too, I'd read that as well. Hell, I want to know if it can go upside-down in a sewer tunnel. I don't see the problem here.
- sliverstorm 13y agoIt might be interesting out of sheer bemusement- especially if they take the Tesla around a WRC track- but it's ultimately a meaningless comparison. Oh, the Tesla has a nicer interior than the stripped Subaru racing shell? Count me impressed! (said no one)
- jlgreco 13y agoAdmittedly I am more in the market for being entertained than impressed. Unfortunately I would be very surprised if Top Gear touches a Tesla car again with a 10-foot pole (and I can't say I blame them).
- kbenson 13y agoSame here. I would also be very surprised if Tesla touches Top Gear again with a 10-foot pole (and I can't say I blame them, either). I think they both had wildly different expectations of what was appropriate in that situation. Neither came out looking very good, IMHO.
- sliverstorm 13y agoIt was a clash of TV cultures. In America, there's an implicit expectation that your "sponsorship" will elicit positive things, tit for tat. In the UK, they get away with all sorts of blasphemy- they are free to bash the cars that get provided for reviews. If you watch Top Gear UK much, you'll notice they criticize plenty of cars, even ones that were on loan from the manufacturer. (This is part of why Top Gear America is but a shadow of Top Gear UK)
- nknighthb 13y agoWhat the hell? Top Gear lied. Tesla wasn't expecting special treatment for sponsorship, they were expecting a modicum of honesty. You don't get to put this down to "culture clash" unless you're defining "ethical" and "unethical" as cultures.
- sliverstorm 13y agoI've never heard evidence Top Gear UK lied or slandered Tesla in the review. I believe the contention of the lawsuit Tesla filed was the 55 mile range quote would be misleading to the public because it was based on driving the Tesla around their track at race speeds. (The judge threw it out saying it wasn't misleading at all)
- nknighthb 13y agoThe range quote wasn't even based on a genuine test. The car was never run down to empty, and yet they showed the car being pushed into the garage as if it were. Judges aren't arbiters of truth, they're arbiters of law. If your standard for truth is "a judge didn't say it was legally defamatory", I hope nobody ever trusts anything you say.
- plorkyeran 13y agoThe reason these articles are interesting is because they're talking about the Tesla doing well when compared on the other cars' strengths, where you would expect the cheaper car focused on something different to do worse. Obviously an article about how the Tesla is better at something than a car which is very bad at that thing would not be very interesting.
- sliverstorm 13y agoAcceleration isn't really an important strength of the Aston's, and Tesla gets applauded for its acceleration all the time. So which is the one that we expect to do worse?
- umsm 13y agoI wouldn't buy a sports or GT car without acceleration being it's "strength"...
- sliverstorm 13y agoThen you probably wouldn't be interested in an Aston Martin. If acceleration is your top priority, you can always buy an STI for a third as much, boost the snot out of it, and leave the Rapide in your dust. The Rapide is no slouch, to be sure, but acceleration falls somewhere in the middle of a larger spectrum of goals for that car.
- lttlrck 13y agoSo you can race between the lights? There is a lot more to it than that.