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A new Pynchon is huge news. And contrary to what some posters here seem to believe, he's not hard to understand, other than certain passages in "Gravity's Rainb

by cgh 13y ago

A new Pynchon is huge news. And contrary to what some posters here seem to believe, he's not hard to understand, other than certain passages in "Gravity's Rainbow" in which even he apparently doesn't remember what he was talking about. I think a lot of people are simply thrown by his constantly shifting perspectives from one character to another and his weird humour. Plus he has a technical background so he throws a lot of offhand engineering references in there. I recommend starting with "The Crying of Lot 49", then "V." Both are amazing and both were written when he was quite young (20s). "V." in particular is a stupendous debut novel. I've read it twice and both times I felt a sort of buzz that lasted for a few days, a sure sign I've read something meaningful in some sense (to me, anyway).

FreakLegion 13y ago
V. is one of my favorite novels. To anyone not already familiar with Pynchon: If you like Neal Stephenson, give Pynchon a shot.
dnr 13y ago
V. is a disjoint "novel" with parts cobbled together from short stories. I wouldn't recommend it as a first (even though it was my first). Instead, try Vineland. It has a more or less straightforward plot and is quite entertaining. Plus some absolutely brilliant passages. Here's an apropos one: "If patterns of ones and zeros were 'like' patterns of human lives and deaths, if everything about an individual could be represented in a computer record by a long string of ones and zeros, then what kind of creature would be represented by a long string of lives and deaths? It would have to be up one level at least -- an angel, a minor god, something in a UFO. It would take eight human lives and deaths just to form one character in this being's name -- its complete dossier might take up a considerable piece of the history of the world. We are digits in God's computer, she not so much thought as hummed to herself to a sort of standard gospel tune, And the only thing we're good for, to be dead or to be living, is the only thing He sees. What we cry, what we contend for, in our world of toil and blood, it all lies beneath the notice of the hacker we call God."
- MaysonL 13y ago
  Shades of this story, linked to from HN a few days ago: http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg.html http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg.html
abruzzi 13y ago
Pynchon writes two distinct types of novels. V., Gravity's Rainbow, Mason & Dixon, and Against the Day are is big (literally) complexly plotted novels that frequently involve hundreds of characters and huge forces of history. They are my favorites, but they require serious commitment and even then can be difficult to read (I've never actually gotten through Mason & Dixon.) He also writes smaller stories that generally focus on a single primary plot with a clear main character driving the story. These are The Crying of Lot 49, Vineland, Inherent Vice, and from the sound of the review, Bleeding Edge. These don't capture his insane manic complexity except in tiny flashes, but they are far easier to acclimate yourself to Pynchon. I do think of his "simpler" novels, The Crying of Lot 49 gives the best taste of Pynchon's common obsessions. I enjoyed Inherent Vice and Vineland, but Lot 49 is much more finely polished.
- TomDavey 13y ago
  The Crying of Lot 49 contains IMO one of the most hilarious sustained passages in all of modern American Lit. It's a parody of a typical Jacobean revenge like Webster's "Duchess of Malfi." The parody is pitch-perfect. It mocks every convention of the genre, including -- especially -- the preposterous violence.
- pingswept 13y ago
  The Crying of Lot 49 is also good to start with because it's only 150 pages or so. His collection of short stories, Slow Learner, has some gems in it. I really liked the second story, Low-lands, the last time I read it. Around 20 years ago, when I was in college, I collected as much of his non-book stuff as I could and put it on a web page. Oddly, it seems it has survived: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/index.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/index.html My favorite piece there is the article for Aerospace Safety, from when Pynchon worked at Boeing: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/together.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/together.html
  - dnr 13y ago
    My favorite from Slow Learner was "Under the Rose", which he later turned into a chapter of V. I loved the absurdism, steampunk-ish bits, and theme of history as chaotic. They're all pretty good, though.

by cgh 13y ago

FreakLegion 13y ago

V. is one of my favorite novels. To anyone not already familiar with Pynchon: If you like Neal Stephenson, give Pynchon a shot.

dnr 13y ago

V. is a disjoint "novel" with parts cobbled together from short stories. I wouldn't recommend it as a first (even though it was my first). Instead, try Vineland. It has a more or less straightforward plot and is quite entertaining. Plus some absolutely brilliant passages. Here's an apropos one: "If patterns of ones and zeros were 'like' patterns of human lives and deaths, if everything about an individual could be represented in a computer record by a long string of ones and zeros, then what kind of creature would be represented by a long string of lives and deaths? It would have to be up one level at least -- an angel, a minor god, something in a UFO. It would take eight human lives and deaths just to form one character in this being's name -- its complete dossier might take up a considerable piece of the history of the world. We are digits in God's computer, she not so much thought as hummed to herself to a sort of standard gospel tune, And the only thing we're good for, to be dead or to be living, is the only thing He sees. What we cry, what we contend for, in our world of toil and blood, it all lies beneath the notice of the hacker we call God."

MaysonL 13y ago
Shades of this story, linked to from HN a few days ago: http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg.html http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg.html

abruzzi 13y ago

Pynchon writes two distinct types of novels. V., Gravity's Rainbow, Mason & Dixon, and Against the Day are is big (literally) complexly plotted novels that frequently involve hundreds of characters and huge forces of history. They are my favorites, but they require serious commitment and even then can be difficult to read (I've never actually gotten through Mason & Dixon.) He also writes smaller stories that generally focus on a single primary plot with a clear main character driving the story. These are The Crying of Lot 49, Vineland, Inherent Vice, and from the sound of the review, Bleeding Edge. These don't capture his insane manic complexity except in tiny flashes, but they are far easier to acclimate yourself to Pynchon. I do think of his "simpler" novels, The Crying of Lot 49 gives the best taste of Pynchon's common obsessions. I enjoyed Inherent Vice and Vineland, but Lot 49 is much more finely polished.

TomDavey 13y ago
The Crying of Lot 49 contains IMO one of the most hilarious sustained passages in all of modern American Lit. It's a parody of a typical Jacobean revenge like Webster's "Duchess of Malfi." The parody is pitch-perfect. It mocks every convention of the genre, including -- especially -- the preposterous violence.
pingswept 13y ago
The Crying of Lot 49 is also good to start with because it's only 150 pages or so. His collection of short stories, Slow Learner, has some gems in it. I really liked the second story, Low-lands, the last time I read it. Around 20 years ago, when I was in college, I collected as much of his non-book stuff as I could and put it on a web page. Oddly, it seems it has survived: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/index.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/index.html My favorite piece there is the article for Aerospace Safety, from when Pynchon worked at Boeing: http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/together.html http://www.pynchon.pomona.edu/uncollected/together.html
- dnr 13y ago
  My favorite from Slow Learner was "Under the Rose", which he later turned into a chapter of V. I loved the absurdism, steampunk-ish bits, and theme of history as chaotic. They're all pretty good, though.