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One argument for the surveillence was from some right-wing military person "Sweden needs a bargaining chip in the international scene". Ok then, he needs to lo

One argument for the surveillence was from some right-wing military person "Sweden needs a bargaining chip in the international scene". Ok then, he needs to look at the map http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/502.gif http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/502.gif and then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization Russsia isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

juhanima 13y ago
Actually, fear of Russia is the most powerful argument of the right-wing types. That is the very reason why Sweden has been eager to co-operate and assimilate with the west. Luckily for them, Finland has always been there to buffer and protect them from the easter invasion. EDIT: Having made such bold statements, thought it would be decent to provide some links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-Novgorodian_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-Novgorodian_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1554%E2%80%931557) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1554%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1590%E2%80%931595) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1590%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Nordic_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Nordic_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1741%E2%80%931743) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1741%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1788%E2%80%931790) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1788%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1808%E2%80%931809) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1808%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War 'Always' was obviously an exaggaration. Eight hundred years would be more accurate, which is pretty much as far as written history goes at these parts.

juhanima 13y ago

Actually, fear of Russia is the most powerful argument of the right-wing types. That is the very reason why Sweden has been eager to co-operate and assimilate with the west. Luckily for them, Finland has always been there to buffer and protect them from the easter invasion. EDIT: Having made such bold statements, thought it would be decent to provide some links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-Novgorodian_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-Novgorodian_Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1554%E2%80%931557) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1554%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1590%E2%80%931595) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1590%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Nordic_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Nordic_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1741%E2%80%931743) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1741%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1788%E2%80%931790) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1788%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1808%E2%80%931809) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Swedish_War_(1808%E2%80%9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War 'Always' was obviously an exaggaration. Eight hundred years would be more accurate, which is pretty much as far as written history goes at these parts.