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I will pay you to learn python

2 points by mjhea0 13y ago

lutusp 13y ago
This is misleading -- it's actually a discount on the normal price of a Python book.
- mjhea0 13y ago
  not really. the normal price is $35, and you get $50 back. so you net $15. it's not a discount. you ACTUALLY are gaining.
  - lutusp 13y ago
    > not really. the normal price is $35, and you get $50 back. so you net $15. it's not a discount. That's called a "discount". And you haven't said what the conditions are. You do realize, don't you, that people will either not take you seriously, or they will drain your resources by signing up under 100s of different names?
    - mjhea0 13y ago
      did you even read the website. there are conditions on there. workflow - 1) users purchases course for $35 2) user takes assessment after part 1 (python syntax) 3) user takes assessment after part 2 (web dev) 4) user shows off what they learned 5) user gets $50. if the user simply buys the course, they get nothing. this is a way of (a) getting more people to learn and (b) showing mastery of a topic by teaching and/or doing why such skepticism? i am trying to give people an incentive to learn and to actually stick with something.
      - lutusp 13y ago
        > why such skepticism? Because of all the parts you leave out. What's your incentive to give away money? Presumably to improve your book. If true, that means purchasers are getting an alpha release, an unfinished work that they're going to help you write. Young people won't be likely to understand this, but if they accept the discount, they're test subjects, not students. If they buy a Python book in a bookstore, they can first read years' worth of reviews to know what they're getting into. > i am trying to give people an incentive to learn and to actually stick with something. No, you're field-testing an unfinished book with the aim of rewriting it. Want my advice? Tell it like it is. People are more likely to cooperate if you're not hiding anything.
        mjhea0 13y ago
        that makes better sense for where you are coming from. however, you are assuming it's an unfinished book when in reality, the book/course have been out for nearly a year. they are complete. we've had thousands of downloads. your point is valid. but it's a fallacy based on a hasty conclusion. still interesting feedback though. curious how many others will come to that conclusion. any ideas on how to reframe the wording of the website to reassure people my motivations for doing this?
mjhea0 13y ago
so - (1) you learn python and web development (2) you get to show it off. ultimate learning by doing (3) then you get $15 (4) there's also the possibility of me hiring you for ad-hoc jobs.

2 points by mjhea0 13y ago

lutusp 13y ago

This is misleading -- it's actually a discount on the normal price of a Python book.

mjhea0 13y ago
not really. the normal price is $35, and you get $50 back. so you net $15. it's not a discount. you ACTUALLY are gaining.
- lutusp 13y ago
  > not really. the normal price is $35, and you get $50 back. so you net $15. it's not a discount. That's called a "discount". And you haven't said what the conditions are. You do realize, don't you, that people will either not take you seriously, or they will drain your resources by signing up under 100s of different names?
  - mjhea0 13y ago
    did you even read the website. there are conditions on there. workflow - 1) users purchases course for $35 2) user takes assessment after part 1 (python syntax) 3) user takes assessment after part 2 (web dev) 4) user shows off what they learned 5) user gets $50. if the user simply buys the course, they get nothing. this is a way of (a) getting more people to learn and (b) showing mastery of a topic by teaching and/or doing why such skepticism? i am trying to give people an incentive to learn and to actually stick with something.
    - lutusp 13y ago
      > why such skepticism? Because of all the parts you leave out. What's your incentive to give away money? Presumably to improve your book. If true, that means purchasers are getting an alpha release, an unfinished work that they're going to help you write. Young people won't be likely to understand this, but if they accept the discount, they're test subjects, not students. If they buy a Python book in a bookstore, they can first read years' worth of reviews to know what they're getting into. > i am trying to give people an incentive to learn and to actually stick with something. No, you're field-testing an unfinished book with the aim of rewriting it. Want my advice? Tell it like it is. People are more likely to cooperate if you're not hiding anything.
      - mjhea0 13y ago
        that makes better sense for where you are coming from. however, you are assuming it's an unfinished book when in reality, the book/course have been out for nearly a year. they are complete. we've had thousands of downloads. your point is valid. but it's a fallacy based on a hasty conclusion. still interesting feedback though. curious how many others will come to that conclusion. any ideas on how to reframe the wording of the website to reassure people my motivations for doing this?

mjhea0 13y ago

so - (1) you learn python and web development (2) you get to show it off. ultimate learning by doing (3) then you get $15 (4) there's also the possibility of me hiring you for ad-hoc jobs.