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This is probably not the most constructive comment here, but it's more correct to say open source RTS game than RTS open source game because open source in this

by niuzeta 13y ago

This is probably not the most constructive comment here, but it's more correct to say open source RTS game than RTS open source game because open source in this case is used as an attributive adjective(pre-nominal modifier) and RTS as a noun-string nominative adjective which modifies 'game'. Also, your title tries a call to action, that is, the first Help is a intransitive verb rather than a noun. So to is unnecessary there. In which case, Help founding would be a better writing. Of course, if we're to use gerund then the word founding could be better replaced with. Ah, the pedantry!

RBerenguel 13y ago
All this and you don't delve in "founding" which is what made me cringe more than the grammar (as a non-native speaker I tend to tollerate bad grammar but spot quickly bad syntax)
- niuzeta 13y ago
  I did edit it in very shortly after. To me the wording irked me more than the word choice 'founding'. Besides, I generally don't like pointing out grammar; I find it a bad taste, especially when you use all jargons and all. you do have a good point, though. The reason I decided to write the bad-taste grammatical pointing-out was because I was irked out. I thought it was RTS open source but the 'founding' did more, now that I think about it.
  - RBerenguel 13y ago
    I think what irks everyone in written text is probably hard-wired in our brain, much like the feeling when rasping chalkboard with a fork or the fight-or-flight response... In my case I don't care that much about grammar even in my mother tongue(s) probably because I grew up mostly bilingual (my parents only speak Spanish, but since I was 4 years old a good deal of the TV I watched and all my school time was in Catalan) but not completely, meaning that I'm likely to make (relatively minor) grammar mistakes in both languages. This makes me overlook this kind of mistakes (grammar) because the patterns are not that hard-wired in my brain, whereas syntax is stronger. I'm not sure but probably reading a lot (which I used to do, now I read mostly in English) made syntax stick stronger than grammar (a good question would be why: grammar is patterns, syntax is elements...) Don't worry, I didn't want to call the syntax nazi police on you, neither the grammar police :) I just found slightly funny you overlooked the (for me) clear error but pointed things I wasn't really paying attention to: it was a good reminder that I should be more careful with my grammar ;) PS: Oh crap, just read your user info... So bad a joke :D:D:D
    - mosselman 13y ago
      The causality of why you "don't mind bad grammar" is not correct. I am raised bilingually (both non English) and after some yeas of school I went to an international school where half of my courses were in English. Bad grammar bothers me a lot in any language, even if it is one I don't speak well. It shows a lack of time spent into the details of things. It is the sort of mentality that causes plane crashes; "I checked the engine last time". Only on a lower level. If you adopt the 'but you know what I meant' argument than we'd all say things like "ain't nobody got time for that". It is funny as a meme, but it makes you sound stupid. Of course you have to take into consideration whether someone is a native speaker or not. You don't have to care; you are free to sound stupid if you want to.
      - RBerenguel 13y ago
        I can't see where in my argument I said "everyone in the same situation should be like I am," nor where in your argument it is so clear that I should follow your (personal) standards. Also I'm getting a feeling that in your comment you imply I am happy with my (probable) bad grammar. I am not happy with it, but I hit diminishing returns a long time ago. Oh, and I'm completely happy about sounding stupid when speaking a foreign language (so far no-one has complained about my spoken English or German, only in France I've had "complaints") as long as other people can understand what I try to say and what I say is meaningful to them.
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cmyr 13y ago
In support of pedantry, when I first read the post I thought this was going to be an RTS about managing an open source project, which sounds like a slightly more masochistic version of desert bus.[0] [0]: (http://desertbus-game.org/ http://desertbus-game.org/)
Florin_Andrei 13y ago
Seems like a typical misplacement for a non-native speaker.
- niuzeta 13y ago
  I am a non-native speaker myself. That's why I didn't go this sentence is wrong and use < > and used more grammatical jargon, so that it may be looked up.(someone once did it for me, correcting my sentences part by part, with all grammatical terms, which I looked up later.) Honestly I don't understand the upvotes. It's pedantry at its worst. I was satisfied with the changed title.
  - dnautics 13y ago
    Not totally the worst - since this is constructive (the title changed to something clearer), if you correct the title to something easier to understand, it is likely that more eyes will see it.
- baddox 13y ago
  I'm a native speaker, and the first one sounds like an incorrect correction to me.

by niuzeta 13y ago

RBerenguel 13y ago

All this and you don't delve in "founding" which is what made me cringe more than the grammar (as a non-native speaker I tend to tollerate bad grammar but spot quickly bad syntax)

niuzeta 13y ago
I did edit it in very shortly after. To me the wording irked me more than the word choice 'founding'. Besides, I generally don't like pointing out grammar; I find it a bad taste, especially when you use all jargons and all. you do have a good point, though. The reason I decided to write the bad-taste grammatical pointing-out was because I was irked out. I thought it was RTS open source but the 'founding' did more, now that I think about it.
- RBerenguel 13y ago
  I think what irks everyone in written text is probably hard-wired in our brain, much like the feeling when rasping chalkboard with a fork or the fight-or-flight response... In my case I don't care that much about grammar even in my mother tongue(s) probably because I grew up mostly bilingual (my parents only speak Spanish, but since I was 4 years old a good deal of the TV I watched and all my school time was in Catalan) but not completely, meaning that I'm likely to make (relatively minor) grammar mistakes in both languages. This makes me overlook this kind of mistakes (grammar) because the patterns are not that hard-wired in my brain, whereas syntax is stronger. I'm not sure but probably reading a lot (which I used to do, now I read mostly in English) made syntax stick stronger than grammar (a good question would be why: grammar is patterns, syntax is elements...) Don't worry, I didn't want to call the syntax nazi police on you, neither the grammar police :) I just found slightly funny you overlooked the (for me) clear error but pointed things I wasn't really paying attention to: it was a good reminder that I should be more careful with my grammar ;) PS: Oh crap, just read your user info... So bad a joke :D:D:D
  - mosselman 13y ago
    The causality of why you "don't mind bad grammar" is not correct. I am raised bilingually (both non English) and after some yeas of school I went to an international school where half of my courses were in English. Bad grammar bothers me a lot in any language, even if it is one I don't speak well. It shows a lack of time spent into the details of things. It is the sort of mentality that causes plane crashes; "I checked the engine last time". Only on a lower level. If you adopt the 'but you know what I meant' argument than we'd all say things like "ain't nobody got time for that". It is funny as a meme, but it makes you sound stupid. Of course you have to take into consideration whether someone is a native speaker or not. You don't have to care; you are free to sound stupid if you want to.
    - RBerenguel 13y ago
      I can't see where in my argument I said "everyone in the same situation should be like I am," nor where in your argument it is so clear that I should follow your (personal) standards. Also I'm getting a feeling that in your comment you imply I am happy with my (probable) bad grammar. I am not happy with it, but I hit diminishing returns a long time ago. Oh, and I'm completely happy about sounding stupid when speaking a foreign language (so far no-one has complained about my spoken English or German, only in France I've had "complaints") as long as other people can understand what I try to say and what I say is meaningful to them.
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cmyr 13y ago

In support of pedantry, when I first read the post I thought this was going to be an RTS about managing an open source project, which sounds like a slightly more masochistic version of desert bus.[0] [0]: (http://desertbus-game.org/ http://desertbus-game.org/)

Florin_Andrei 13y ago

Seems like a typical misplacement for a non-native speaker.

niuzeta 13y ago
I am a non-native speaker myself. That's why I didn't go this sentence is wrong and use < > and used more grammatical jargon, so that it may be looked up.(someone once did it for me, correcting my sentences part by part, with all grammatical terms, which I looked up later.) Honestly I don't understand the upvotes. It's pedantry at its worst. I was satisfied with the changed title.
- dnautics 13y ago
  Not totally the worst - since this is constructive (the title changed to something clearer), if you correct the title to something easier to understand, it is likely that more eyes will see it.
baddox 13y ago
I'm a native speaker, and the first one sounds like an incorrect correction to me.