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I agree about the smug attitude, not necessary. As someone that was big and now has no belly, I believe calling someone fat is actually in accurate. More accura

I agree about the smug attitude, not necessary. As someone that was big and now has no belly, I believe calling someone fat is actually in accurate. More accurate to say the person has a lot of fat, or doesn't. Also, eat less and exercise more is NOT the solution. I cannot stress enough how hard it is for people to lose weight because they surrounded by a system that just wants them to buy shit to consume. That goes for the food industry, as well as the fitness supplement industry. The answer is eating the right foods and to be on some sort of food plan. I read at the end of 2011 a comment here on HN about the 4hb and how it changed some dudes life. So I read and applied and it changed my life, as well as some of my family members. So I am going to recommend to the people that want to lose their body fat, The Four Hour Body. Obesity is a big problem in this country. At my local grocery store there is an entire section cut out for scooters and I kid you not 20-30 people in a scooter when its busy. And these aren't old people scooters. I saw scooter traffic jam the other day, made me feel like I was in South Park. But not even sure where these people would start, its almost like they committed suicide with food and now are just being. Life is not easy and eating shit is a legal way to cope. We all have our crutches.

entropyneur 13y ago
> Life is not easy and eating shit is a legal way to cope. Exactly. We have a bit of an alcoholism problem where I live. It mostly affects the poor. When I visited the US it was strikingly obvious that obesity is very similar in that regard.
mseebach 13y ago
> surrounded by a system that just wants them to buy shit to consume > Life is not easy and eating shit is a legal way to cope Smug or not smug, this is an epic cop-out. There might well be complex physiological factors that are difficult if not impossible to get out in front of, I get that, I really do (and I'm not exactly rail-thin myself, FWIW) - but "the system, man" is NOT one of them. You're an adult, you're endowed with fairly rare skills (by virtue alone of being on HN you're way ahead of the curve), man up and deal with it (which, by the way, you did, and kudos for that - obviously "the system" wasn't that much in your way, after all).
- barking 13y ago
  You're attitude seems to be to tell them to 'pull themselves together'. Companies advertise because it works on humans. We're not machines and don't have unlimited amounts of willpower.
  - mseebach 13y ago
    And your attitude seems to be that because advertising exists free will doesn't.
    - GFischer 13y ago
      Everybody has a limited amount of willpower (search for willpower depletion). If someone's spending all his willpower just enduring an awful workplace or otherwise going through an awful day, it's a lot more likely s/he will be an alcoholic or overeat.
eru 13y ago
> But not even sure where these people would start, [..] Fasting?

entropyneur 13y ago

> Life is not easy and eating shit is a legal way to cope. Exactly. We have a bit of an alcoholism problem where I live. It mostly affects the poor. When I visited the US it was strikingly obvious that obesity is very similar in that regard.

mseebach 13y ago

> surrounded by a system that just wants them to buy shit to consume > Life is not easy and eating shit is a legal way to cope Smug or not smug, this is an epic cop-out. There might well be complex physiological factors that are difficult if not impossible to get out in front of, I get that, I really do (and I'm not exactly rail-thin myself, FWIW) - but "the system, man" is NOT one of them. You're an adult, you're endowed with fairly rare skills (by virtue alone of being on HN you're way ahead of the curve), man up and deal with it (which, by the way, you did, and kudos for that - obviously "the system" wasn't that much in your way, after all).

barking 13y ago
You're attitude seems to be to tell them to 'pull themselves together'. Companies advertise because it works on humans. We're not machines and don't have unlimited amounts of willpower.
- mseebach 13y ago
  And your attitude seems to be that because advertising exists free will doesn't.
  - GFischer 13y ago
    Everybody has a limited amount of willpower (search for willpower depletion). If someone's spending all his willpower just enduring an awful workplace or otherwise going through an awful day, it's a lot more likely s/he will be an alcoholic or overeat.

eru 13y ago

> But not even sure where these people would start, [..] Fasting?