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Taking a step back and looking at all of this in its totality, its hard to not think that Bin Laden won.
by outside1234 13y ago
Taking a step back and looking at all of this in its totality, its hard to not think that Bin Laden won.
- a3n 13y agoIt would have happened anyway. It was already happening. The Church Committee was a speed bump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_committee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_committee https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nsa+black+chamber&t=canonical https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nsa+black+chamber&t=canonical
- qxcv 13y ago> ...its hard to not think that Bin Laden won. Only if bin Laden's aim was to strengthen the US surveillance apparatus and step up American military involvement in the Middle East.
- w_t_payne 13y agoOr perhaps it was an attempt to destroy the idea that individual freedom and democratic accountability present an attractive alternative to an Islamic theocracy? Certainly, you can see how the very idea of personal freedom is an affront to an ideology based on submission to God and to religious authority. What better way to discredit freedom than to turn it into an illusion?
- w_t_payne 13y agoPerhaps ... but it was a propaganda victory, at most: http://cynical-and-depressing.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/is-mass-surveillance-propaganda-victory.html http://cynical-and-depressing.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/is-mass...