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I don't really care about the constant jabbing, smugness, or strawmen. I am angry with Rhinehart because he has the balls to promote his product with not an io
by kiba 13y ago
I don't really care about the constant jabbing, smugness, or strawmen.
I am angry with Rhinehart because he has the balls to promote his product with not an iota of attention being paid to the scientific method or any type of rigor for that matter.
- enraged_camel 13y ago>>I am angry with Rhinehart because he have the balls to promote his product with not an iota of attention being paid to the scientific method or any type of rigor for that matter. Can you point me to a food manufacturer that uses the scientific method to support their ridiculous claims? Or have you not seen the fine-print on the vast majority of food packaging along the lines of "these claims have not been evaluated by the FDA"?
- kiba 13y agoCan you point me to a food manufacturer that uses the scientific method to support their ridiculous claims? Or have you not seen the fine-print on the vast majority of food packaging along the lines of "these claims have not been evaluated by the FDA"? Your point is?
- enraged_camel 13y agoI thought my point is rather clear. You said you are angry at Rob because he "[has] the balls to promote his product with not an iota of attention being paid to the scientific method or any type of rigor." What I am telling you that, if that is the case, then you need to be angry at pretty much every food manufacturer ever. Because they also do not use scientific method or any type of rigor when they make claims about their products.
- kiba 13y agoThere is nothing to interesting to say when you and I are in agreement about how the food industry sell food.
- jljljl 13y agoThere's a number of blogs and writers who take the nutritional supplement manufacturers to task for their outrageous claims. Furthermore, saying "They can get away with this because everyone else gets away with this" is kinda silly.
- vectorpush 13y agoCan you point me to a food manufacturer or anyone that says you should consume their product to the exclusion of all other nutrients?
- dllthomas 13y agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwCfTBjLaw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwCfTBjLaw
- vectorpush 13y agoQED.
- dasil003 13y agoI'm confused, are you saying this in support of Soylent? If so, it's right up there with this quote from the article: > We do not yet know what the ideal diet for a human is, but our present understanding permits us to easily design a diet that is far superior to what most people are eating. If your bar for quality and benefits is the existing food industry then you've already massively failed. The existing food industry, especially in America is completely fucked. Of course you can trivially manufacture a healthier diet than what most people eat, because most people eat a lot of industrially processed foods engineered to fool your senses and get you addicted so that they can sell you more over-priced rehashed versions of the same subsidized farm grains at an obscenely profitable markup. That's not evidence that we are anywhere near having a clue how to manufacture an ideal diet from raw chemicals. The fact that he keeps painting this picture that diet is just a list of chemicals and pays no attention to how the body metabolize is dangerously reductive. Animal metabolism is nowhere near as simple as the simple and isolated chemistry and physics on which he bases his reasoning. When anyone raises these issues he sticks his fingers in his ears hand-waves it away with accusations that people want him to fail for pseudo-religious emotional reasons. Well, I for one don't want him to fail, the goal is noble and could be widely beneficial. However it will never be achieved by someone who is so willfully ignorant about the complexity of the problem he is facing.
- mikeryan 13y agoI always found it strange that for a food product with a wildly successful kickstarter that "The Team" didn't have one person onboard with a nutrition or food sciences background.
- dnautics 13y agohonestly, speaking as a biochemist, odds are I'd trust them less. Not saying that good ones don't exist, but a lot of people with "that background" are kind of clueless.
- steveklabnik 13y agoI don't. That's what this whole 'disruption' meme is: an outside force of some kind swoops in and brings some sort of knowledge that those in their filter bubble couldn't see.
- mikeryan 13y agoThat's what this whole 'disruption' meme i I'm pretty sure thats part of it but I'm also pretty sure you'll find most "disruptive" teams have some domain experience in there somewhere.