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I think all the boilerplate really does detract from the readability. Your eyes sort of glaze over and you can miss small departures from the boilerplate you ex

I think all the boilerplate really does detract from the readability. Your eyes sort of glaze over and you can miss small departures from the boilerplate you expect to see.

kyllo 13y ago
Perhaps, but I think the fact that it's such a boilerplate-oriented language, requiring explicit type declarations, arguments, and returns, and lacking lambda expressions, it really discourages cleverness and subtlety, making it easier to read than dynamic and functional languages. It also lacks the pointer arithmetic, bit shifting, and operator overloading of C/C++ that make those languages so difficult to read. Java may be repetitive, verbose, and dumbed-down, but that definitely keeps it from being a "write-only" language. I do agree that Go is a good compromise, very readable but with less boilerplate, and probably an improvement on the Java paradigm, but the lack of generic data structures makes it kind of hard to use Go as a Java replacement.
- Gravityloss 13y ago
  Perhaps java is fast to read in characters per minute. But for actual functionality, I'll take something like Ruby any time.
crucini 13y ago
Really? You have trouble with code like this? RegistrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass registrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass = millisDOMX509Grow.getRegistrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass(); KeyedGSSPolygons keyedGSSPolygons = new KeyedGSSPolygons(incompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention, iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal, dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, native2asciizhDelegateEnvarLearned, insertStrategyRTFLearned); keyedGSSPolygons.addISO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal(iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal); AppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling appendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling = instantiatorParenthesisForeachOutlineCounted.getAppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling(); AdaptiveReflogMerges adaptiveReflogMerges = new AdaptiveReflogMerges(); adaptiveReflogMerges.addIishCoolbarTuple(iishCoolbarTuple); AppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling appendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling = keyedGSSPolygons.getAppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling(); RanksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst = new RanksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst(native2asciizhDelegateEnvarLearned, colorizeHmacComplexJanitorEnvar); ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst.removeIncompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention(incompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention); AdaptiveReflogMerges adaptiveReflogMerges = fixerAppletPerfEs.getAdaptiveReflogMerges(); ReferencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ referencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ = new ReferencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ(membershipDriverConsistency, iishCoolbarTuple, sectorPartsGJForking, ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst); referencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ.addISO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal(iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal); DitherTWSDLGraphemeInserting ditherTWSDLGraphemeInserting = cnxnsCNTWSDL.getDitherTWSDLGraphemeInserting(); Message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned = new Message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned(dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, sAXXMINamessvInconsistencyAnswerLoopingCommunicatorEdition, insertStrategyRTFLearned, dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, nIDiffuseGraphemeINAes256Kind);
- kyllo 13y ago
  Lulz. This is why you don't do graphics programming in Java.

I think all the boilerplate really does detract from the readability. Your eyes sort of glaze over and you can miss small departures from the boilerplate you expect to see.

kyllo 13y ago

Perhaps, but I think the fact that it's such a boilerplate-oriented language, requiring explicit type declarations, arguments, and returns, and lacking lambda expressions, it really discourages cleverness and subtlety, making it easier to read than dynamic and functional languages. It also lacks the pointer arithmetic, bit shifting, and operator overloading of C/C++ that make those languages so difficult to read. Java may be repetitive, verbose, and dumbed-down, but that definitely keeps it from being a "write-only" language. I do agree that Go is a good compromise, very readable but with less boilerplate, and probably an improvement on the Java paradigm, but the lack of generic data structures makes it kind of hard to use Go as a Java replacement.

Gravityloss 13y ago
Perhaps java is fast to read in characters per minute. But for actual functionality, I'll take something like Ruby any time.

crucini 13y ago

Really? You have trouble with code like this? RegistrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass registrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass = millisDOMX509Grow.getRegistrarInstallationsChoicesSubclass(); KeyedGSSPolygons keyedGSSPolygons = new KeyedGSSPolygons(incompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention, iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal, dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, native2asciizhDelegateEnvarLearned, insertStrategyRTFLearned); keyedGSSPolygons.addISO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal(iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal); AppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling appendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling = instantiatorParenthesisForeachOutlineCounted.getAppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling(); AdaptiveReflogMerges adaptiveReflogMerges = new AdaptiveReflogMerges(); adaptiveReflogMerges.addIishCoolbarTuple(iishCoolbarTuple); AppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling appendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling = keyedGSSPolygons.getAppendingGuiceJustificationMarshalling(); RanksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst = new RanksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst(native2asciizhDelegateEnvarLearned, colorizeHmacComplexJanitorEnvar); ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst.removeIncompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention(incompatibleTransliterationNoPerfCombiningContention); AdaptiveReflogMerges adaptiveReflogMerges = fixerAppletPerfEs.getAdaptiveReflogMerges(); ReferencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ referencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ = new ReferencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ(membershipDriverConsistency, iishCoolbarTuple, sectorPartsGJForking, ranksPessimisticSeparableDialFirst); referencerBreakingViewersvAes256RenderingsGJ.addISO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal(iSO885915ConnectionlessAsyncDiagonal); DitherTWSDLGraphemeInserting ditherTWSDLGraphemeInserting = cnxnsCNTWSDL.getDitherTWSDLGraphemeInserting(); Message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned = new Message12DL2ExposeReconcilablePerfEditionUnaligned(dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, sAXXMINamessvInconsistencyAnswerLoopingCommunicatorEdition, insertStrategyRTFLearned, dotDataetJDIMarshallingResourceszhObservablesDiagonal, nIDiffuseGraphemeINAes256Kind);

kyllo 13y ago
Lulz. This is why you don't do graphics programming in Java.