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I love the way people laugh at Microsofts services and devices proposition. It is pretty good; way better than Google and way more stable. Seriously. It also sp

I love the way people laugh at Microsofts services and devices proposition. It is pretty good; way better than Google and way more stable. Seriously. It also spans desktop, mobile, online services, private/public cloud and you can integrate anywhere. While people were slagging them off, they got their shit together. The strategy is simply: everything because they are big enough to do it.

jamesaguilar 13y ago
Wait, their shit is together? I don't really think so. Their mobile situation is zombie-ish, they still haven't really done much on the web, and as far as I have heard nobody is using their cloud services. How is their shit together?
- harrytuttle 13y ago
  Where did you get your crack pipe? Mobile situation is great. They are growing and now they have control over Nokia, they can do an Xbox i.e. make it succeed even if it's a loss leader for a bit. Not only that they still have piles of WinCE industrial devices going out of the door. Not done much on the web. Are you blind? Office 365, SharePoint, Azure, Skype, Bing (which isn't as shit as people like to say) at least 3 complete web stacks, the most complete API implementation across all products, devdiv. They do everything Google does already apart from social which they leave to Facebook as after all they threw some cash in that direction. Oh and they do all that on the desktop AS WELL. Nobody using their cloud - yeah right: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-29/microsoft-azure-sales-top-1-billion-challenging-amazon.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-29/microsoft-azure-sal... I think you are suffering from what I term as "the other reality distortion field" which is where people are blind to the actual facts on the table. There is a huge difference between the legendary portrayal of Microsoft by the tech media and the reality. Just watch the reality doesn't bite you on the arse one day.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    I have no dog in the os fight. I'm happy to use any of the big three (if you can count Linux among the big three ;)). I'm unlikely to be bitten by Microsoft succeeding. Quite the opposite, since they would have to create an extremely compelling experience to dig themselves out of the hole, I would probably benefit.
- ams6110 13y ago
  Azure is in fact a bright spot for MS; no it's not as big as EC2 but people are using it. Where their cloud is not doing so well is on the private side, I don't hear a lot about people running Azure private clouds in their own data centers; contrast VMware, Eucalyptus and OpenStack.
  - atesti 13y ago
    Is that available? When I read ScottGu's (a fantastic manager at Microsoft!) blog I always think: If I was ever using cloud, that would look nice. I was not aware that I could run all this stuff on our own servers!
viraptor 13y ago
> It also spans desktop, mobile, Yes, one desktop. One mobile > online services, That everyone else also integrates with. Apart from live/msn email accounts, which are exclusive because it doesn't expose any sane interface (unless it changed with the move to outlook backend?) > private/public cloud and you can integrate anywhere. I don't even know what that means. Integrate anywhere? You know what else could have the same description? Nokia/Maemo - spans linux desktop, linux mobile, online services (can connect anywhere), private/public cloud (it's just an account), can integrate anywhere (whatever that means). And where is it now? Dead.
- pavlov 13y ago
  It's not just one desktop and one mobile. Microsoft has native apps for iOS and Android. Their browser-based cloud apps (Skydrive, Word, OneNote etc.) work great on other browsers and other platforms. The comparison to Maemo is completely wrong. Maemo didn't have any of this ecosystem. There was no "Nokia Drive" or "Nokia Office". The best Maemo could do was run recompiled Debian packages, and that didn't get you much (I know, I had most of the Maemo devices). Microsoft's cloud platform is light years ahead of what Maemo/Meego was delivering.

jamesaguilar 13y ago

Wait, their shit is together? I don't really think so. Their mobile situation is zombie-ish, they still haven't really done much on the web, and as far as I have heard nobody is using their cloud services. How is their shit together?

harrytuttle 13y ago
Where did you get your crack pipe? Mobile situation is great. They are growing and now they have control over Nokia, they can do an Xbox i.e. make it succeed even if it's a loss leader for a bit. Not only that they still have piles of WinCE industrial devices going out of the door. Not done much on the web. Are you blind? Office 365, SharePoint, Azure, Skype, Bing (which isn't as shit as people like to say) at least 3 complete web stacks, the most complete API implementation across all products, devdiv. They do everything Google does already apart from social which they leave to Facebook as after all they threw some cash in that direction. Oh and they do all that on the desktop AS WELL. Nobody using their cloud - yeah right: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-29/microsoft-azure-sales-top-1-billion-challenging-amazon.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-29/microsoft-azure-sal... I think you are suffering from what I term as "the other reality distortion field" which is where people are blind to the actual facts on the table. There is a huge difference between the legendary portrayal of Microsoft by the tech media and the reality. Just watch the reality doesn't bite you on the arse one day.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  I have no dog in the os fight. I'm happy to use any of the big three (if you can count Linux among the big three ;)). I'm unlikely to be bitten by Microsoft succeeding. Quite the opposite, since they would have to create an extremely compelling experience to dig themselves out of the hole, I would probably benefit.
ams6110 13y ago
Azure is in fact a bright spot for MS; no it's not as big as EC2 but people are using it. Where their cloud is not doing so well is on the private side, I don't hear a lot about people running Azure private clouds in their own data centers; contrast VMware, Eucalyptus and OpenStack.
- atesti 13y ago
  Is that available? When I read ScottGu's (a fantastic manager at Microsoft!) blog I always think: If I was ever using cloud, that would look nice. I was not aware that I could run all this stuff on our own servers!

viraptor 13y ago

> It also spans desktop, mobile, Yes, one desktop. One mobile > online services, That everyone else also integrates with. Apart from live/msn email accounts, which are exclusive because it doesn't expose any sane interface (unless it changed with the move to outlook backend?) > private/public cloud and you can integrate anywhere. I don't even know what that means. Integrate anywhere? You know what else could have the same description? Nokia/Maemo - spans linux desktop, linux mobile, online services (can connect anywhere), private/public cloud (it's just an account), can integrate anywhere (whatever that means). And where is it now? Dead.

pavlov 13y ago
It's not just one desktop and one mobile. Microsoft has native apps for iOS and Android. Their browser-based cloud apps (Skydrive, Word, OneNote etc.) work great on other browsers and other platforms. The comparison to Maemo is completely wrong. Maemo didn't have any of this ecosystem. There was no "Nokia Drive" or "Nokia Office". The best Maemo could do was run recompiled Debian packages, and that didn't get you much (I know, I had most of the Maemo devices). Microsoft's cloud platform is light years ahead of what Maemo/Meego was delivering.