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I think is point is that if your accent is so strong that you are not understandable, then odds are you either are ignorant that it is a problem or are too dumb
by gfodor 13y ago
I think is point is that if your accent is so strong that you are not understandable, then odds are you either are ignorant that it is a problem or are too dumb to consider it a possibility, since otherwise you would have taken steps to improve it to the point that you are intelligible.
Now that there has been a shitstorm pg can no longer delve into specifics anymore without inflaming hurt feelings, but I imagine he is talking about people who have incredibly extreme accents and are extraordinarily hard to understand. I have worked with a number of people like this, they were ultimately unable to live up to their potential, and I would characterize them as "clueless" in this regard since I would be genuinely shocked if they were at the very least aware nevermind actively trying to correct the problem. It defies belief to think that these folks could not have dramatically improved their accent had they identified it as a problem and spent a few hours each week of dedicated effort to improve it.
This point is of course lost on people who are eager to be offended. If you have a ridiculously strong accent then it's hard to argue that it is unreasonably difficult to go from there to simply being intelligible. People are instead focused on the difficulty of losing an accent altogether which is of course very hard and completely irrelevant.
- philangist 13y agoSome people can't just "fix" their accents though. I think that's a large part of the problem most people have with what Paul said. It's not completely irrelevant. It's the whole point.
- gfodor 13y agoMy point is that it depends on what you mean by "fix." Is it extremely hard for a person with a unintelligible accent to eliminate it? Of course. Could that same person with a few hours of regular effort quickly make incredible progress (in that most of their peers would go from not being able to understand them to being able to?) I'd have to speculate yes.