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Check out meteor.js for why JavaScript would be needed for "static only content". Real time updates. That's why. Everything is an app.

by leokun 13y ago

mynameisme 13y ago
Is this something people even want in content driven sites though? Imagine reddit in real time, it would be a mess and impossible to keep track of what you last read.
- kansface 13y ago
  Why should users have to click refresh for pages to load more comments or to see when someone replies to you? The fact that reddit does not do this is not evidence that it would be confusing.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    Because sites that distract me from what I'm reading to tell me that there are new comments are extremely annoying. Sure, you could add, say, auto-loading for new comments when you reach the bottom of the page, or setting the message icon to orange when you get a reply, but that hardly requires a full-blown web app, it's a simple addon to a static site.
    - camus 13y ago
      disqus deals with this issue quite well , disqus will just notify you there are new comments ,it's up to you to load them or not.
- sgdesign 13y ago
  You can try out for yourself :) http://telesc.pe http://telesc.pe
  - mynameisme 13y ago
    I have, and it works ok when there is a ton of concurrent users. But on the other hand, I don't think the UX of telescope is any better than reddit's and in some ways worse (example: clicking on a post with a large amount of comments cause the page to pause without any visual feedback. This could be fixed, but is any better than just a regular link?)
anonymousab 13y ago
Which is silly. If I'm just trying to view a news article from yesterday or a year ago, I shouldn't have to worry about what some silly script is trying to do. If the core of the content is or should be text, then there's no need for countless silly layers around it.
- leokun 13y ago
  Maybe you want a PDF instead.
  - asdasf 13y ago
    Or maybe some sort of "hypertext" document. That could contain links to other such documents, allowing users to easily navigate content. All this interlinked content could form some sort of "web" even.
Joeboy 13y ago
So, for static content that changes in real time.
FooBarWidget 13y ago
When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There are valid use cases that meteor.js is awesome for, but one should avoid cargo culting.
TelmoMenezes 13y ago
Maybe I'm getting old but sometimes I really really don't want real time updates.
- marknutter 13y ago
  You want to keep hitting refresh, refresh, refresh?
  - dllthomas 13y ago
    He wants the page not to change under him when he hasn't hit refresh. Personally, race conditions between user and UI drive me crazy.
superluminary 13y ago
No reason why you can't provide real time updates on your content driven site. and respect progressive enhancement. I'd submit this would be the easiest way to do it.

Check out meteor.js for why JavaScript would be needed for "static only content". Real time updates. That's why. Everything is an app.

by leokun 13y ago

Check out meteor.js for why JavaScript would be needed for "static only content". Real time updates. That's why. Everything is an app.

mynameisme 13y ago

Is this something people even want in content driven sites though? Imagine reddit in real time, it would be a mess and impossible to keep track of what you last read.

kansface 13y ago
Why should users have to click refresh for pages to load more comments or to see when someone replies to you? The fact that reddit does not do this is not evidence that it would be confusing.
- icebraining 13y ago
  Because sites that distract me from what I'm reading to tell me that there are new comments are extremely annoying. Sure, you could add, say, auto-loading for new comments when you reach the bottom of the page, or setting the message icon to orange when you get a reply, but that hardly requires a full-blown web app, it's a simple addon to a static site.
  - camus 13y ago
    disqus deals with this issue quite well , disqus will just notify you there are new comments ,it's up to you to load them or not.
sgdesign 13y ago
You can try out for yourself :) http://telesc.pe http://telesc.pe
- mynameisme 13y ago
  I have, and it works ok when there is a ton of concurrent users. But on the other hand, I don't think the UX of telescope is any better than reddit's and in some ways worse (example: clicking on a post with a large amount of comments cause the page to pause without any visual feedback. This could be fixed, but is any better than just a regular link?)

anonymousab 13y ago

Which is silly. If I'm just trying to view a news article from yesterday or a year ago, I shouldn't have to worry about what some silly script is trying to do. If the core of the content is or should be text, then there's no need for countless silly layers around it.

leokun 13y ago
Maybe you want a PDF instead.
- asdasf 13y ago
  Or maybe some sort of "hypertext" document. That could contain links to other such documents, allowing users to easily navigate content. All this interlinked content could form some sort of "web" even.

Joeboy 13y ago

So, for static content that changes in real time.

FooBarWidget 13y ago

When your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There are valid use cases that meteor.js is awesome for, but one should avoid cargo culting.

TelmoMenezes 13y ago

Maybe I'm getting old but sometimes I really really don't want real time updates.

marknutter 13y ago
You want to keep hitting refresh, refresh, refresh?
- dllthomas 13y ago
  He wants the page not to change under him when he hasn't hit refresh. Personally, race conditions between user and UI drive me crazy.

superluminary 13y ago

No reason why you can't provide real time updates on your content driven site. and respect progressive enhancement. I'd submit this would be the easiest way to do it.