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The Wizard of Oz keeps a big machine turning, but that machine isn't really running the kingdom, despite all that smoke and noise and imperial pomp. The imperia

by SiVal 13y ago

The Wizard of Oz keeps a big machine turning, but that machine isn't really running the kingdom, despite all that smoke and noise and imperial pomp. The imperial palace is merely the largest and possibly least productive participant. The real economy is the unfathomably complex interaction of billions of parties deciding what to make for whom, what to spend on what, what to study, where to live.... The big, clumsy oaf that often takes their money by force without trading anything for it, offers them others' money in exchange for votes, sometimes creates useful infrastructure that helps the real economy be more productive then comes up with new ways to impede their productivity (hiring people who are unfit to produce, telling them to regulate producers, and pointing at the newly hired regulators as a "jobs creation success story")..., that oaf is not keeping the economy going. It's just a big, clumsy participant, but people who can't fathom complex adaptive systems assume the biggest node must be in charge. Yours is a child's view of an economy, friend.

bobwaycott 13y ago
What nonsense. You've way overcooked your metaphor. Way to read your own ideologies into my simple statement. It's unnecessarily arrogant to think you can glean so much from a two-sentence remark on your attempt to belittle state-based innovation and oversimplification of reasons behind contracting corporations for state needs. Nothing in my simple statement precluded recognition of economic complexities or suggested the state was in charge. We can disagree all day long, and you can go about your business suggesting the state is a monstrous oaf stealing money from people with jack-booted thugs, giving it away to get votes, and the persons from whom they stole the cash got absolutely nothing out of the 'theft'--but piss off with this patronizing bullshit of calling a different view that of a child. You've heavily laden a ridiculously partisan view of economy with a ridiculously partisan view of the state, and ultimately say nothing helpful or enlightening. For someone who allegedly sits so high above, fathoming complex adaptive systems, you sure relegate the state to a role of simplicity and hand-waving, touting garbage as incontrovertible truths. The state takes everyone's money by force without trading anything for it? What a useless view that shows no comprehension of political theory and the complex adaptive systems we establish in social and political institutions as actors who engage and transact.

by SiVal 13y ago

bobwaycott 13y ago

What nonsense. You've way overcooked your metaphor. Way to read your own ideologies into my simple statement. It's unnecessarily arrogant to think you can glean so much from a two-sentence remark on your attempt to belittle state-based innovation and oversimplification of reasons behind contracting corporations for state needs. Nothing in my simple statement precluded recognition of economic complexities or suggested the state was in charge. We can disagree all day long, and you can go about your business suggesting the state is a monstrous oaf stealing money from people with jack-booted thugs, giving it away to get votes, and the persons from whom they stole the cash got absolutely nothing out of the 'theft'--but piss off with this patronizing bullshit of calling a different view that of a child. You've heavily laden a ridiculously partisan view of economy with a ridiculously partisan view of the state, and ultimately say nothing helpful or enlightening. For someone who allegedly sits so high above, fathoming complex adaptive systems, you sure relegate the state to a role of simplicity and hand-waving, touting garbage as incontrovertible truths. The state takes everyone's money by force without trading anything for it? What a useless view that shows no comprehension of political theory and the complex adaptive systems we establish in social and political institutions as actors who engage and transact.