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We know that subpopulations of humans vary drastically by phenotypes relevant to athletic performance. The Dutch average adult male height is the highest on the

We know that subpopulations of humans vary drastically by phenotypes relevant to athletic performance. The Dutch average adult male height is the highest on the planet at 6'1". African pygmies separated from their Bantu relatives 4,000 - 5,000 years ago, and have since evolved to have an average male height of 4'11". Others are intermediate - the Japanese have an average male height of 5'7". Within a breeding population, height tends to follow a normal distribution. Depending on the standard deviation, there will be a few Japanese taller than the average Dutch. But there will be far more Dutch than Japanese among the very tallest men. This is a simple example, but in a sport where height matters, like basketball, there will be far more Dutch who are good at it than Japanese, and far more Japanese than pygmies. Certainly culture matters, especially in sports where intelligence matters more and raw physical talents matter less. But genetics also matter.

moron4hire 13y ago
And if you select those extremely tall Japanese people and transplant them to the United States, they will be far more likely to find success in basketball than if they had stayed in Japan. The Japanese culture (assuming) does not value basketball as a sport. Being in Japan, those athletes won't have the chance to develop their skills to the degree that they would elsewhere. Yes, it could be said that the Japanese do not value basketball because they have historically not found success in it on the international scale, which would be because of their genetic predisposition to being shorter than even the Chinese. Genetics shape culture and culture can reinforce genetics. But it's not all about genetics. That's my entire point: there is no single variable that can claim why Kenyans run so well. But people want to say that it's genetics that make a good marathoner. That's just not the case, it takes both genetics and environment. This is not a novel concept, but for some reason when it comes to lay people talking on the internet about sports, they don't want to admit it. The world is complex, there are shades of grey, nothing is black and white.
Dewie 13y ago
It doesn't seem that height has everything to do with genetics, if we observe the average heights of taller countries in the past. Things like diet and perhaps healthcare are also factors. When it comes to the Dutch, they didn't always use to be the tallest: - http://suite101.com/article/why-are-the-dutch-so-tall-a55753 http://suite101.com/article/why-are-the-dutch-so-tall-a55753

moron4hire 13y ago

And if you select those extremely tall Japanese people and transplant them to the United States, they will be far more likely to find success in basketball than if they had stayed in Japan. The Japanese culture (assuming) does not value basketball as a sport. Being in Japan, those athletes won't have the chance to develop their skills to the degree that they would elsewhere. Yes, it could be said that the Japanese do not value basketball because they have historically not found success in it on the international scale, which would be because of their genetic predisposition to being shorter than even the Chinese. Genetics shape culture and culture can reinforce genetics. But it's not all about genetics. That's my entire point: there is no single variable that can claim why Kenyans run so well. But people want to say that it's genetics that make a good marathoner. That's just not the case, it takes both genetics and environment. This is not a novel concept, but for some reason when it comes to lay people talking on the internet about sports, they don't want to admit it. The world is complex, there are shades of grey, nothing is black and white.

Dewie 13y ago

It doesn't seem that height has everything to do with genetics, if we observe the average heights of taller countries in the past. Things like diet and perhaps healthcare are also factors. When it comes to the Dutch, they didn't always use to be the tallest: - http://suite101.com/article/why-are-the-dutch-so-tall-a55753 http://suite101.com/article/why-are-the-dutch-so-tall-a55753