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I wish Obama's Nobel Peace Prize would be retracted. He never deserved it, and he deserves it now less than ever. It would send a strong message that you can't

by devx 13y ago

I wish Obama's Nobel Peace Prize would be retracted. He never deserved it, and he deserves it now less than ever. It would send a strong message that you can't just bullshit your way into the presidential office of the world's strongest nation, as a champion of civil liberties and peace, and then do the exact opposite. I support his impeachment for the very same reason. In a way, I almost hope he intervenes in Syria despite a vote against in Congress (hopefully), if that means his impeachment will be inevitable - even though I care about him getting impeached over the NSA surveillance state a lot more than him getting impeached over Syria, but I know there's a lot smaller chance to impeach him over that, so I'll take whichever reason works best.

frank_boyd 13y ago
> I support his impeachment for the very same reason. I share the sentiment. But we should keep in mind that the next president will be continue the same madness as the people before him/her. It's a systemic problem and can not be corrected by voting one of the "two" "choices" in.
- Shivetya 13y ago
  Not if the people would wise up and kick them to the curb after one term.
  - VLM 13y ago
    So, rather than having two basically identical candidates every other election, we'd have two basically identical candidates every election. I'm not seeing any possible way this could improve anything. In pretty much any way. So you go into the restaurant and and she says 'coke or pepsi'. You want lemonade, so you send a message by alternating between coke and pepsi each time you go there. That's not gonna work wonders at getting lemonade on the menu. Doesn't matter which of two "choices" you pick, you're going to be stuck with over sweetened corn syrup cola either way.
samatman 13y ago
I'd like you to at least consider a far scarier possibility: Obama is not in fact in charge of the country. This perspective really helps me understand the last, say, 20 years of US history. Your mileage may vary.
- chasing 13y ago
  This should help you understand the past 230+ years of American history, because it's by design that the President is not "in charge" of the country. (And it's a pretty good design.)

by devx 13y ago

frank_boyd 13y ago

> I support his impeachment for the very same reason. I share the sentiment. But we should keep in mind that the next president will be continue the same madness as the people before him/her. It's a systemic problem and can not be corrected by voting one of the "two" "choices" in.

Shivetya 13y ago
Not if the people would wise up and kick them to the curb after one term.
- VLM 13y ago
  So, rather than having two basically identical candidates every other election, we'd have two basically identical candidates every election. I'm not seeing any possible way this could improve anything. In pretty much any way. So you go into the restaurant and and she says 'coke or pepsi'. You want lemonade, so you send a message by alternating between coke and pepsi each time you go there. That's not gonna work wonders at getting lemonade on the menu. Doesn't matter which of two "choices" you pick, you're going to be stuck with over sweetened corn syrup cola either way.

samatman 13y ago

I'd like you to at least consider a far scarier possibility: Obama is not in fact in charge of the country. This perspective really helps me understand the last, say, 20 years of US history. Your mileage may vary.

chasing 13y ago
This should help you understand the past 230+ years of American history, because it's by design that the President is not "in charge" of the country. (And it's a pretty good design.)