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Did you turn on showdead and read his comments as you were advised to, or did you just decide to remain willfully ignorant while drawing absurd conclusions?

asveikau 13y ago
Can you please re-read what you're replying to? I do not feel that it went through. I presume from your response that you are OK with: 1. Making fun of mental illness. (I hope that mental illness doesn't have to afflict your family before you realize what's wrong with that.) 2. Making fun of working on an OS. (Still uncool.) To answer your question, yes, I read his comments.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  I presume from your response that you're an arrogant, presumptuous asshole who can't conceive of the possibility that someone disagrees with your characterizations.
  - asveikau 13y ago
    Ouch. I'll keep that in mind for next time I attempt a kind word for people with mental illness, that nknighthb has a problem with that.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Your very first post in this thread was a deliberate insult to the entire community dressed up as a request for "explanation". On behalf of people with mental and neurological issues of all stripes, please shut up. We don't need your "kind words". Just the opposite. We need people who think they're "defending" us by being holier-than-thou assholes to stop talking.
      - asveikau 13y ago
        > Your very first post in this thread was a deliberate insult to the entire community dressed up as a request for "explanation". IMHO nobody's really made a convincing case that at least some small part of this community hasn't ostracized this guy for either his mental illness or for his interest in operating systems. Having looked at comments surrounding this guy I still see people doing both. I've gotten some nice replies from people who aren't trying to judge him but I still do see other users doing both. I wanted to speak my conscience about that.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        > small part of this community Reflect on that for a while, then compare it to the first comment you made.
  - dkersten 13y ago
    From reading this thread I see the original post was clearly off the mark but everything else that asveikau wrote after that seems more than reasonable to me (and not inaccurate either: I have seen plenty of people on HN make fun of losethos for both being mentally ill and writing an OS - both of which I feel are very wrong). On the other hand, you are the one that comes across as a compete asshole here.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Presuming I'm "OK with" horrible things based on no evidence is "more than reasonable" to you? Then it must be "more than reasonable" for me to presume you're OK with victim blaming in other contexts?
      - asveikau 13y ago
        Initially, you didn't give me a lot of context when you dismissed me as a pompous ass. You didn't give me any reason to think you had read and understood my original comment. My reading of it, without that context, was to assume you were OK with dismissing people based on their health problems. This especially bothered me because I have a family member with such problems. I've seen so many people be dismissive of this kind of thing seemingly because they have never experienced anything like it, and without a lot of context in your reply I put you in that bucket. When I saw your reply to my reply I understood a bit better, and so please allow me to say right now: I am sorry. At the same time I did kind of feel that you went a little overboard in your reaction.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        Thank you.

asveikau 13y ago

Can you please re-read what you're replying to? I do not feel that it went through. I presume from your response that you are OK with: 1. Making fun of mental illness. (I hope that mental illness doesn't have to afflict your family before you realize what's wrong with that.) 2. Making fun of working on an OS. (Still uncool.) To answer your question, yes, I read his comments.

nknighthb 13y ago
I presume from your response that you're an arrogant, presumptuous asshole who can't conceive of the possibility that someone disagrees with your characterizations.
- asveikau 13y ago
  Ouch. I'll keep that in mind for next time I attempt a kind word for people with mental illness, that nknighthb has a problem with that.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    Your very first post in this thread was a deliberate insult to the entire community dressed up as a request for "explanation". On behalf of people with mental and neurological issues of all stripes, please shut up. We don't need your "kind words". Just the opposite. We need people who think they're "defending" us by being holier-than-thou assholes to stop talking.
    - asveikau 13y ago
      > Your very first post in this thread was a deliberate insult to the entire community dressed up as a request for "explanation". IMHO nobody's really made a convincing case that at least some small part of this community hasn't ostracized this guy for either his mental illness or for his interest in operating systems. Having looked at comments surrounding this guy I still see people doing both. I've gotten some nice replies from people who aren't trying to judge him but I still do see other users doing both. I wanted to speak my conscience about that.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        > small part of this community Reflect on that for a while, then compare it to the first comment you made.
- dkersten 13y ago
  From reading this thread I see the original post was clearly off the mark but everything else that asveikau wrote after that seems more than reasonable to me (and not inaccurate either: I have seen plenty of people on HN make fun of losethos for both being mentally ill and writing an OS - both of which I feel are very wrong). On the other hand, you are the one that comes across as a compete asshole here.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    Presuming I'm "OK with" horrible things based on no evidence is "more than reasonable" to you? Then it must be "more than reasonable" for me to presume you're OK with victim blaming in other contexts?
    - asveikau 13y ago
      Initially, you didn't give me a lot of context when you dismissed me as a pompous ass. You didn't give me any reason to think you had read and understood my original comment. My reading of it, without that context, was to assume you were OK with dismissing people based on their health problems. This especially bothered me because I have a family member with such problems. I've seen so many people be dismissive of this kind of thing seemingly because they have never experienced anything like it, and without a lot of context in your reply I put you in that bucket. When I saw your reply to my reply I understood a bit better, and so please allow me to say right now: I am sorry. At the same time I did kind of feel that you went a little overboard in your reaction.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        Thank you.