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Amara's Law: "We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run." Not to seem like a luddite, bu
by ssivark 13y ago
Amara's Law: "We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run."
Not to seem like a luddite, but let me play the devil's advocate here.
15 years, IMHO, a huge exaggeration. The standard technology of today: IVRS systems suck so bad that they make me want to slam the phone down after 2 minutes, if I cant talk to a human. Siri or GoogleNow aren't much better. When you force a human to interact with a computer, you are handicapping them and taking away most of their expressiveness. Guess what, humans don't like that. You reduce them to the level of the computer which can only understand a few pre-programmed options. That seems like a far cry from human communication which it will try to replace. And we don't even know if that's possible even in principle. All we have is the hope from a bunch of people who are generally excited by technology, and the ensuing hype.
Keeping Amara's law in mind, I would imagine that such a drastic change would take a longer time (almost 1 generation's working life?). Incremental changes summed up might displace jobs over decades, but if someone can adapt to those incremental changes, I would imagine that they can manage their whole working lives. At least as applicable to people born till (say) 2000 and would presumably live till 2100 or so. Any "predition" beyond that would be a wild leap. As for humans being born circa now...
However, I believe that a few questions are still of supreme importance and we need to tackle them for the sustenance of mankind (pun unintended).
1. If a computer/robot could exactly replicate a job (and do it on a macroscopic scale), will such a solution be energy efficient? [Assume that you already have a population of X billion whose needs you will have to meet]
2. What is the real aim of automation? Is it to save costs from the perspective of the business owner, or to give people leisure?
3. Let's say robots/computers replace a large segment of jobs. Presumably, a small number of people will own and operate those systems of scale (you just have to make a 3D printer which can print other 3D printers). Then what is the role of the "unemployed" humans? And most importantly, any such structure we come up with, must lead to a stable society.
- snom380 13y agoI find it interesting how many smart people seem to truly believe that things will just work itself out. Kind of like the idealist libertarians or communists, only with technology as the solution to every problem.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y agoMost engineers/technologists probably never see the inside of an ethics or philosophy course.
- Ilverin 13y agoThey generally also believe in the invisible hand of the capitalist market.
- mason240 13y agoThat is something that can only "believed" in or "disbelieved" as much as gravity can be "believed" in or "disbelieved."
- wildwood 13y agoGravity can be tested just by dropping your pencil. The invisible hand takes a lot more faith and fervent wishing, IMO.
- icebraining 13y agoTo test the invisible hand, as described by Smith, you just need to buy something useful from someone who just sold it for money, and not out of any desire of helping people. People just inflate the concept to ridiculous levels, which were clearly not intended by the author.
- ssivark 13y agoOne has to be careful when applying the "invisible hand" idea. You can't just take an "ideal" situation (fixed point) and say that the system will evolve towards that. For an example, I refer to my comment on this HN thread -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6313482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6313482
- qu4z-2 13y agoI believe in the invisible hand, but I also believe it's drunk.