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Haven't the expectations usually formed from experience? I don't understand how that is a problem. Is the theory that if there were more movies about female ba

by Tichy 13y ago

Haven't the expectations usually formed from experience? I don't understand how that is a problem. Is the theory that if there were more movies about female bank robbers, there would be more real bank robbers, in turn making us believe movies about female bank robbers, which would lead to more movies about female bank robbers - goal achieved?

saraid216 13y ago
> Is the theory that if there were more movies about female bank robbers, there would be more real bank robbers, in turn making us believe movies about female bank robbers, which would lead to more movies about female bank robbers - goal achieved? Yes. Just like if there were more movies about female Nazgul there would be more real female Nazgul in turn making us believe movies about female Nagul, which would lead to more movies about female Nazgul.
- Tichy 13y ago
  Great example to illustrate that the whole discussion is somewhat pointless. Although it really seems likely that there are too few female villains in movies, skewing people's perception of women.
  - saraid216 13y ago
    Because there are so many female heroes.
    - Tichy 13y ago
      There are many, many movies with women as the main actrice. Even female heroes. What do you mean by hero, somebody who carries heavy guns and mows down lots of enemies? Even those exist, for example Resident Evil (totally unrealistic of course). Have you even actually counted the movies with male and female heroes, or do you just have a gut feeling that there are only few female heroes? While you are counting, you could also count how many men die as collateral damage ("guards") vs how many women. Edit: some more I remembered in the meantime: Underworld series, Alien series, Aeon Flux, Buffy, Dark Angel, Nikita
      - hrkristian 13y ago
        Firefly and Serenity showing incredible depth in female characters as well as making one female lead the ultimate bad-ass of the entire universe.

by Tichy 13y ago

saraid216 13y ago

> Is the theory that if there were more movies about female bank robbers, there would be more real bank robbers, in turn making us believe movies about female bank robbers, which would lead to more movies about female bank robbers - goal achieved? Yes. Just like if there were more movies about female Nazgul there would be more real female Nazgul in turn making us believe movies about female Nagul, which would lead to more movies about female Nazgul.

Tichy 13y ago
Great example to illustrate that the whole discussion is somewhat pointless. Although it really seems likely that there are too few female villains in movies, skewing people's perception of women.
- saraid216 13y ago
  Because there are so many female heroes.
  - Tichy 13y ago
    There are many, many movies with women as the main actrice. Even female heroes. What do you mean by hero, somebody who carries heavy guns and mows down lots of enemies? Even those exist, for example Resident Evil (totally unrealistic of course). Have you even actually counted the movies with male and female heroes, or do you just have a gut feeling that there are only few female heroes? While you are counting, you could also count how many men die as collateral damage ("guards") vs how many women. Edit: some more I remembered in the meantime: Underworld series, Alien series, Aeon Flux, Buffy, Dark Angel, Nikita
    - hrkristian 13y ago
      Firefly and Serenity showing incredible depth in female characters as well as making one female lead the ultimate bad-ass of the entire universe.