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I don't want MS online account. That is the whole point. The only way not to link my local account to freshly minted MS Online account was to remove the network

I don't want MS online account. That is the whole point. The only way not to link my local account to freshly minted MS Online account was to remove the network connection. And it is something useless anyway. I don't want any forced online services. The moment I disabled driver signing the cisco VPN worked like a charm. Also it is my OS on my pc. If I want it to commit suicide I expect it to obey not to have hard block on installing a program. The Windows Firewall is crap because trusted installer can add exceptions so I have to clean up after every program I install. Nothing makes outgoing connections before I allow it to.

harrytuttle 13y ago
RTM Pro and enterprise doesn't do that for me (got my isos last night). Preview did. RTM less than pro probably does it. cisco didn't sign their driver or get it approved. If you disable driver signing you leave a big hole in your system. Well you're certainly trying to get it to commit suicide. Trusted installer can add rules. Software should ask but if it doesn't you can always deny access to it anyway.
- yuhong 13y ago
  Though PCA triggering when it has been disabled by Group Policy is definitely a bug.
  - harrytuttle 13y ago
    Depends if a gpupdate /force has been done or not
Tmmrn 13y ago
> Also it is my OS on my pc. It's not like people wouldn't tell you otherwise. "Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does; you can't study the source code, or change it. It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage." "In the past, these were isolated incidents. “Trusted computing” would make the practice pervasive. “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission. The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html Ok, "trusted computing" doesn't do that yet... completely... But has microsoft been going into that direction or hasn't it? If you want control over your PC, use at least open source software.

harrytuttle 13y ago

RTM Pro and enterprise doesn't do that for me (got my isos last night). Preview did. RTM less than pro probably does it. cisco didn't sign their driver or get it approved. If you disable driver signing you leave a big hole in your system. Well you're certainly trying to get it to commit suicide. Trusted installer can add rules. Software should ask but if it doesn't you can always deny access to it anyway.

yuhong 13y ago
Though PCA triggering when it has been disabled by Group Policy is definitely a bug.
- harrytuttle 13y ago
  Depends if a gpupdate /force has been done or not

Tmmrn 13y ago

> Also it is my OS on my pc. It's not like people wouldn't tell you otherwise. "Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does; you can't study the source code, or change it. It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage." "In the past, these were isolated incidents. “Trusted computing” would make the practice pervasive. “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission. The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html Ok, "trusted computing" doesn't do that yet... completely... But has microsoft been going into that direction or hasn't it? If you want control over your PC, use at least open source software.