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Well the account workflow makes sense. Why would you create a Microsoft account and then not login using it? Driver problem is Cisco's fault. Proprietary VPN s

Well the account workflow makes sense. Why would you create a Microsoft account and then not login using it? Driver problem is Cisco's fault. Proprietary VPN software has been a shitfest since day one. This is not new. Try using another VPN system end to end i.e. standard IPSec or SSTP or something and it'll just work. Are you sure Comodo firewall is actually designed to work with it? If you're playing around with PCA, you are trying to break windows to make it work. Windows has a good firewall built in. Go read up on it. nothing inherently wrong with windows 8.1 in your statement - you need to go introspect. This is typical it's shit because I know better (but you don't).

venomsnake 13y ago
I don't want MS online account. That is the whole point. The only way not to link my local account to freshly minted MS Online account was to remove the network connection. And it is something useless anyway. I don't want any forced online services. The moment I disabled driver signing the cisco VPN worked like a charm. Also it is my OS on my pc. If I want it to commit suicide I expect it to obey not to have hard block on installing a program. The Windows Firewall is crap because trusted installer can add exceptions so I have to clean up after every program I install. Nothing makes outgoing connections before I allow it to.
- harrytuttle 13y ago
  RTM Pro and enterprise doesn't do that for me (got my isos last night). Preview did. RTM less than pro probably does it. cisco didn't sign their driver or get it approved. If you disable driver signing you leave a big hole in your system. Well you're certainly trying to get it to commit suicide. Trusted installer can add rules. Software should ask but if it doesn't you can always deny access to it anyway.
  - yuhong 13y ago
    Though PCA triggering when it has been disabled by Group Policy is definitely a bug.
    - harrytuttle 13y ago
      Depends if a gpupdate /force has been done or not
- Tmmrn 13y ago
  > Also it is my OS on my pc. It's not like people wouldn't tell you otherwise. "Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does; you can't study the source code, or change it. It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage." "In the past, these were isolated incidents. “Trusted computing” would make the practice pervasive. “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission. The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html Ok, "trusted computing" doesn't do that yet... completely... But has microsoft been going into that direction or hasn't it? If you want control over your PC, use at least open source software.

venomsnake 13y ago

I don't want MS online account. That is the whole point. The only way not to link my local account to freshly minted MS Online account was to remove the network connection. And it is something useless anyway. I don't want any forced online services. The moment I disabled driver signing the cisco VPN worked like a charm. Also it is my OS on my pc. If I want it to commit suicide I expect it to obey not to have hard block on installing a program. The Windows Firewall is crap because trusted installer can add exceptions so I have to clean up after every program I install. Nothing makes outgoing connections before I allow it to.

harrytuttle 13y ago
RTM Pro and enterprise doesn't do that for me (got my isos last night). Preview did. RTM less than pro probably does it. cisco didn't sign their driver or get it approved. If you disable driver signing you leave a big hole in your system. Well you're certainly trying to get it to commit suicide. Trusted installer can add rules. Software should ask but if it doesn't you can always deny access to it anyway.
- yuhong 13y ago
  Though PCA triggering when it has been disabled by Group Policy is definitely a bug.
  - harrytuttle 13y ago
    Depends if a gpupdate /force has been done or not
Tmmrn 13y ago
> Also it is my OS on my pc. It's not like people wouldn't tell you otherwise. "Proprietary software means, fundamentally, that you don't control what it does; you can't study the source code, or change it. It's not surprising that clever businessmen find ways to use their control to put you at a disadvantage." "In the past, these were isolated incidents. “Trusted computing” would make the practice pervasive. “Treacherous computing” is a more appropriate name, because the plan is designed to make sure your computer will systematically disobey you. In fact, it is designed to stop your computer from functioning as a general-purpose computer. Every operation may require explicit permission. The technical idea underlying treacherous computing is that the computer includes a digital encryption and signature device, and the keys are kept secret from you. Proprietary programs will use this device to control which other programs you can run, which documents or data you can access, and what programs you can pass them to." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html Ok, "trusted computing" doesn't do that yet... completely... But has microsoft been going into that direction or hasn't it? If you want control over your PC, use at least open source software.