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There's one potential issue with this in that all electronic devices these days can store data. It may not be able to transmit while in the pouch, but there's n
by eksith 13y ago
There's one potential issue with this in that all electronic devices these days can store data. It may not be able to transmit while in the pouch, but there's no reason it could store and forward when you next come into rage of a wifi station. We already know malware exists for mobile devices; there's no reason a 0-day exploit can't be implanted to do just that.
Besides, it's not just your phone that could be transmitting signals. Whether accidentally or not, pretty much any gadget sophisticated enough to pick up audio may also be transmitting :
http://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/1le3if/so_i_discovered_that_my_hp_laptop_leakstransmits/ http://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/1le3if/so_i_discover...
- mikegioia 13y agoStore and forward what? The only thing I'd want to prevent my phone from beaming to the mothership is my location. If your phone is inside this Faraday shield then it can't get a GPS location to store. Edit: microphone will still work inside pouch
- tghw 13y agoWhy wouldn't the microphone pick anything up? Sound waves are unaffected by a Faraday cage.
- mikegioia 13y agoYea you're right, I thought the microphone itself wouldn't work but it still does.
- eksith 13y agoStore and forward any audio it picks up. Why stick to GPS when your location can be triangulated by cross referencing the sounds around you? E.G. A fire engine/ambulance, school bus with loud children or garbage truck passing by at a particular time or the voice of someone else who's cell isn't protected and is being monitored. Software to accomplish these things already exist.
- mikegioia 13y agoYea I understand what you mean now. I would still say that's a little aggressively paranoid given the nature of this pouch, but you're right -- the makers of the pouch seem to imply that you're "safe" when your phone's inside which apparently isn't 100% true.
- eksith 13y agoOh yes, it's definitely on the paranoid side. I would argue that an old fashioned feature phone with the battery removed is a much cheaper alternative, but the point of these items, I believe, is more symbolic than functional. I mean, if you think about it, someone wearing one of those hoodies... they don't really care about the fashion statement or even the "protection" they offer. The reality is that someone wearing that would stand out like a sore thumb, and I think that's part of the point. It's more of a conspicuous protest in plain sight without being disruptive. Maybe that's the real sales pitch all along. A bit of "I am Spartacus" with a high-tech woven mesh and face hiding.
- mindslight 13y agoStarting with the before and after GPS positions, one could estimate likely connecting paths using accelerometer and microphone inputs.
- rdtsc 13y ago> Store and forward what? 1) Well, surprise, your location. Just store tuples of position and time where you were 2) Everything you type, passwords, patterns 3) Picture of your face if you have face lock 4) Accounts you use and maybe passwords
- leokun 13y agoHow would it know where you were if it can't use GPS or connect to wifi networks? Obviously if you take it out you're not protected anymore.
- eksith 13y agoPresumably, you'll need to take it out of the pouch to make a call. At which point, it will upload all it has gathered via nearby open wifi access point or, with the cooperation of your carrier, through the data link. If the carrier has any special incentives, the extra upload of data won't count against your usage so you may not even know that the upload took place.
- rdtsc 13y agoIf it was in the pouch and you wanted to hide the time it was in the pouch during that time you never took it out, then yes that would work.