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article starts with a general overview, then explains the numbers (a really small sub section of travellers get into trouble at the border, most for very good r

article starts with a general overview, then explains the numbers (a really small sub section of travellers get into trouble at the border, most for very good reasons like warrants). and then the article takes a u-turn and focuses on a special case. someone associated to an eco terrorist association. what the fuck. ever seen what happens in frankfurt if one of the border agents suspects you of smuggling? off you go. they trawl the airport, pick you out of the crowd. they even show this in some reality tv shows, hope you like being on camera. how about you travel a bit more? any major country has border control, they all are very, very similar. and what the hell are the mini james bonds in here doing that needs them to truecrypt their shit and wipe their phones? you have HN, github, whatever accounts, you code in public but you need to hide your files? the fuck are you storing on your hds that is not public knowledge? travelling with your porn collection?

betterunix 13y ago
"the fuck are you storing on your hds that is not public knowledge?" Personal emails to my fiance? Personal photographs that I am not posting all over the Internet? Business secrets, maybe things that I had to sign an NDA for? How about this: if you have nothing to hide on your hard drive, send me a disk dump and let me look through. If you do not want me looking through it, why should I feel OK with the CBP looking through mine? "travelling with your porn collection?" Suppose someone only has one laptop (shocking!). Would it be that crazy to think that they might be traveling with their porn collection?
- pinaceae 13y ago
  i went through 2 passports in the last 6 years, ran out of space. travelling with company laptops and now additional iPads. never, ever, did anyone want to search my HD. and this is Russia, China, Japan, SKorea, US, Brazil, Argentinia, plus 80% of Europe. none, ever. and even if. good luck with some powerpoints, pdfs, word docs. emails are in gmail, work is JIRA/confluence/google docs, etc. NDAs talk about preventing willful sharing with competitors, etc. Reasonable prevention measures, like locking your computer. Border Patrol requesting access? go ahead. unless you're a nuclear physicist working on the next gen thing, what the hell is so important to hide from a border agent that right now wants to search YOU, not your precious employer. and porn - the internet is for porn.
  - betterunix 13y ago
    You asked what sort of things I might have on my hard drive that I do not want strangers to view. I gave you answers. Your solution is to store all those things on Google's servers, and then still let CBP look through them if they ask. You go ahead and do that, I will be over here using dm-crypt and PGP to keep my private things private.
  - gtirloni 13y ago
    If you're not working with important enough stuff that might be valuable in the hands of other people, does not mean nobody else is. It does not need to be military/state-level stuff. Even if the border shitheads aren't actively looking for it, they might get ideas once they see something. Please send a URL to the uploaded contents of your hard drive so we can see them. I'm sure you wouldn't mind.
coldtea 13y ago
Can we have an image of your HD uploaded somewhere? I'm sure you will oblige us.
- pinaceae 13y ago
  right, absolutely the same case. giving access to a border agent vs. the whole internet. and again, i travel a lot and never, ever has anyone given a fig about my hds.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >right, absolutely the same case. giving access to a border agent vs. the whole internet If your argument to the first case is "the fuck are you storing on your hds that is not public knowledge?" then it wouldn't matter whatever it was a single guy or the internet. After all it's "public knowledge". >and again, i travel a lot and never, ever has anyone given a fig about my hds. A, the "that didn't happen to me, so I don't see it is a problem" argument.
snobudi 13y ago
Indeed, Mr. Arno Sosna, ain't public knowledge a great thing? Who needs privacy!
- pinaceae 13y ago
  so?

betterunix 13y ago

"the fuck are you storing on your hds that is not public knowledge?" Personal emails to my fiance? Personal photographs that I am not posting all over the Internet? Business secrets, maybe things that I had to sign an NDA for? How about this: if you have nothing to hide on your hard drive, send me a disk dump and let me look through. If you do not want me looking through it, why should I feel OK with the CBP looking through mine? "travelling with your porn collection?" Suppose someone only has one laptop (shocking!). Would it be that crazy to think that they might be traveling with their porn collection?

pinaceae 13y ago
i went through 2 passports in the last 6 years, ran out of space. travelling with company laptops and now additional iPads. never, ever, did anyone want to search my HD. and this is Russia, China, Japan, SKorea, US, Brazil, Argentinia, plus 80% of Europe. none, ever. and even if. good luck with some powerpoints, pdfs, word docs. emails are in gmail, work is JIRA/confluence/google docs, etc. NDAs talk about preventing willful sharing with competitors, etc. Reasonable prevention measures, like locking your computer. Border Patrol requesting access? go ahead. unless you're a nuclear physicist working on the next gen thing, what the hell is so important to hide from a border agent that right now wants to search YOU, not your precious employer. and porn - the internet is for porn.
- betterunix 13y ago
  You asked what sort of things I might have on my hard drive that I do not want strangers to view. I gave you answers. Your solution is to store all those things on Google's servers, and then still let CBP look through them if they ask. You go ahead and do that, I will be over here using dm-crypt and PGP to keep my private things private.
- gtirloni 13y ago
  If you're not working with important enough stuff that might be valuable in the hands of other people, does not mean nobody else is. It does not need to be military/state-level stuff. Even if the border shitheads aren't actively looking for it, they might get ideas once they see something. Please send a URL to the uploaded contents of your hard drive so we can see them. I'm sure you wouldn't mind.

coldtea 13y ago

Can we have an image of your HD uploaded somewhere? I'm sure you will oblige us.

pinaceae 13y ago
right, absolutely the same case. giving access to a border agent vs. the whole internet. and again, i travel a lot and never, ever has anyone given a fig about my hds.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >right, absolutely the same case. giving access to a border agent vs. the whole internet If your argument to the first case is "the fuck are you storing on your hds that is not public knowledge?" then it wouldn't matter whatever it was a single guy or the internet. After all it's "public knowledge". >and again, i travel a lot and never, ever has anyone given a fig about my hds. A, the "that didn't happen to me, so I don't see it is a problem" argument.

snobudi 13y ago

Indeed, Mr. Arno Sosna, ain't public knowledge a great thing? Who needs privacy!

pinaceae 13y ago
so?