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Why are Syrian programmers the only ones worthy of help here?

by Nrsolis 13y ago

agumonkey 13y ago
A little lack of distance in this website, but I guess HNers may have better knowledge and network to help programmers. That said, I wish for a hireawarrefugee.org to pop up.
noloqy 13y ago
The website or post in no way implies that this is the case. One reason to choose Syria is that the situation may be more acute than it is in most other places in the world at the moment. One reason to choose programmers could be that this is also the industry that the founder is active in, perhaps making it easier to approach potential customers.
- Nrsolis 13y ago
  I'm going to clarify my question here: Why are Syrian PROGRAMMERS the focus? It would be just as easy to divide up the population into any other constituent subgroup and select only those for help. Any of these would also be a valid goal according to the effort being proposed here: Syrian auto mechanics Syrian bakers Syrian musicians Syrian nurses You are presupposing that you can ONLY easily help programmers and furthermore, ONLY those Syrians with programing skill SHOULD be helped. Taken to it's logical extension, you end up helping people based on Ethnicity or Religion. Why not instead focus on trying to help the greatest number of people in the most expedient way possible: by working to END this terrible civil war. That's CERTAINLY possible given the assemblage of talent reading these words. You're setting your sights FAR TOO LOW.
  - nandemo 13y ago
    OP is organizing something that might end up helping (or even saving) many Syrians. You're just bikeshedding. This is HN, it's only natural to focus on programming. There are many here with the authority to hire programmers, not many people hiring nurses or mechanics. Besides, it's easier to get a visa if you're a programmer, and it's also easier to get remote work (e.g. in case a Syrian can't get a visa to US or EU but can move to Lebanon or Turkey).
engrenage 13y ago
Why is that ever a useful question when someone is motivate to help someone else?
level09 13y ago
A. Because there is a war going on right now in Syria, People don't really know how much time is left for them as the bombing is occurring everywhere. B. Because Syrians never had equal access to knowledge as other nations (they were punished by US and other countries) http://www.sanctionswiki.org/Syria http://www.sanctionswiki.org/Syria this means No hosting is allowed, no paypal, no ecommerce, no Google services, No Source forge , I remember we couldn't even download java .. C. Because it is okay to help others.
emiliobumachar 13y ago
You seem to be incurring in the Nirvana fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

Why are Syrian programmers the only ones worthy of help here?

by Nrsolis 13y ago

Why are Syrian programmers the only ones worthy of help here?

A little lack of distance in this website, but I guess HNers may have better knowledge and network to help programmers. That said, I wish for a hireawarrefugee.org to pop up.

noloqy 13y ago

The website or post in no way implies that this is the case. One reason to choose Syria is that the situation may be more acute than it is in most other places in the world at the moment. One reason to choose programmers could be that this is also the industry that the founder is active in, perhaps making it easier to approach potential customers.

Nrsolis 13y ago
I'm going to clarify my question here: Why are Syrian PROGRAMMERS the focus? It would be just as easy to divide up the population into any other constituent subgroup and select only those for help. Any of these would also be a valid goal according to the effort being proposed here: Syrian auto mechanics Syrian bakers Syrian musicians Syrian nurses You are presupposing that you can ONLY easily help programmers and furthermore, ONLY those Syrians with programing skill SHOULD be helped. Taken to it's logical extension, you end up helping people based on Ethnicity or Religion. Why not instead focus on trying to help the greatest number of people in the most expedient way possible: by working to END this terrible civil war. That's CERTAINLY possible given the assemblage of talent reading these words. You're setting your sights FAR TOO LOW.
- nandemo 13y ago
  OP is organizing something that might end up helping (or even saving) many Syrians. You're just bikeshedding. This is HN, it's only natural to focus on programming. There are many here with the authority to hire programmers, not many people hiring nurses or mechanics. Besides, it's easier to get a visa if you're a programmer, and it's also easier to get remote work (e.g. in case a Syrian can't get a visa to US or EU but can move to Lebanon or Turkey).

engrenage 13y ago

Why is that ever a useful question when someone is motivate to help someone else?

level09 13y ago

A. Because there is a war going on right now in Syria, People don't really know how much time is left for them as the bombing is occurring everywhere. B. Because Syrians never had equal access to knowledge as other nations (they were punished by US and other countries) http://www.sanctionswiki.org/Syria http://www.sanctionswiki.org/Syria this means No hosting is allowed, no paypal, no ecommerce, no Google services, No Source forge , I remember we couldn't even download java .. C. Because it is okay to help others.

emiliobumachar 13y ago

You seem to be incurring in the Nirvana fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy