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Beware, IANAL. Yes, incorporate. Then, if the business isn't worth much and it's just you, ignore any patent trolls. In the unlikely event any take you to court
by genwin 13y ago
Beware, IANAL. Yes, incorporate. Then, if the business isn't worth much and it's just you, ignore any patent trolls. In the unlikely event any take you to court, don't show up or otherwise waste your money on the suit, and if they win then continue to ignore them. In the worst case you go out of business and start another business with the same technology.
- kintamanimatt 13y agoIgnoring a properly filed lawsuit is pretty much the dumbest thing you can do. If they win by default (which is what happens if you ignore it) they can still successfully come after assets.
- genwin 13y agoIt's not the dumbest thing you can do when acting on it costs more. They cannot come after your personal assets in the case I described, and the business is not worth much. They are smart enough to not spend more money than they can seize in assets, so it's unlikely to happen.
- Grovara123 13y agoNo - it is the dumbest thing you can do. They can win by default... you lose... you don't get to be 're-heard'
- genwin 13y agoYes, you lose, but less than you'd lose if you fight it.
- kintamanimatt 13y agoAre you sure you're a lawyer, as you've claimed elsewhere? I have strong doubts given the way you debate and write. As a lawyer you should know that (at least in the US) relief from a default judgment is available. Such relief requires a showing of good cause, but the standard for "good cause" doesn't appear to be especially high.
- Grovara123 13y agoa lawyer and owner of a tech patent - not a troll- http://patents.justia.com/inventor/peter-a-groverman http://patents.justia.com/inventor/peter-a-groverman
- robryan 13y agoSo, you invented rewards points in 2012....
- kinsho 13y agoAnd so you are one of them. You're asking software developers like us to cut deals with people like you in order to avoid litigation.
- VexXtreme 13y agoIt seems to me that the only reason you frequent HN is to find any potential startups that might be using a system remotely resembling what you described in your patent, so that you could sue them. Pathetic.
- reitzensteinm 13y agoThat patent is a fucking joke. You didn't invent anything, and the claims section reads like a parody, buzzword combination without thought or insight. So you want to profiteer on a broken system? Cool. But don't hang out here, handing out advice and pretending that you're anything but part of the problem.
- kintamanimatt 13y agoWow, you actually are, albeit an inactive one! Well, when I'm wrong I'm wrong. I'm surprised you don't debate better though because every lawyer I've known has been excellent at debating! The fact you're a patent troll with a software patent for an "innovation" that (according to this comment's sibling comments) is super trivial, obvious, and certainly not new puts your perspective into perspective! I hope it gets invalidated! As a point of note, I'm not clicking on that link so I can remain ignorant of that patent. I hear that's the best course of action for developers ... just in case! Also, I just watched your TED application video: people sometimes go to the US with empty suitcases for the purposes of shopping because it's cheaper to buy the same or similar products in the US than it is to buy them locally. More importantly, it's fun. They also do the same in other countries too!