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Terry is the guy behind the LoseThOS monicker, he does not appear to conceal his identity, so it's not hard to find his contact information if you try. I'm wond

by clicks 13y ago

Terry is the guy behind the LoseThOS monicker, he does not appear to conceal his identity, so it's not hard to find his contact information if you try. I'm wondering if one of us should try to reach him and make an effort to get him to understand that if he lays aside the gibberish addendums and racist insults in his communications he's more than welcome to be a part of this community. I mean, this is actually someone who has gradually been losing it because the world has not been kind to him. Look at his post from a little more than two years ago: http://i.imgur.com/qL01m.png http://i.imgur.com/qL01m.png There are no insults in that post, instead you see a man who's created something wonderful and isn't getting anything back for it. Of course the icing on this cake is that, that very post was marked as dead... his cry for help was not seen or heard by anyone.

sillysaurus2 13y ago
He is schizophrenic. One of the defining features of schizophrenia is that they can't be reasoned with. They have periods of complete lucidity followed by periods of complete craziness due to physical deterioration of the brain. He deserves a good doctor. If we can do anything, then we should set up a fund for medical treatment. He has said that doctors haven't been able to help him, but maybe whoever is caring for him hasn't been able to afford top-tier care. It makes a huge difference. In practice, setting up such a fund would be difficult because we don't know who's caring for him or how.
billadoid 13y ago
He's quite racist[0] and people won't tolerate his hate. It's for the best he got hellbanned, so the "saner" ones won't be tempted to get into a flame war with him. [0]:http://i.imgur.com/IIMGYKE.png http://i.imgur.com/IIMGYKE.png (the last comment made me laugh)
- sillysaurus2 13y ago
  He's not necessarily racist. He's suffering from a mental illness. He believes god talks to him.
  - tinco 13y ago
    Saying racist things makes you racist, wether you are mentally ill or not. It does mean we should judge him less for it. But it also means it might be a good decision to ban him so that he does not tarnish the community with too many flame threads.
    - tippytop 13y ago
      Then does not saying racist things automatically make you not-racist? Or is there other criteria we need to apply before hanging the label? For example, do they believe the words coming out of their own mouth? What about someone with Tourette's? I'm not trying to fall in a philosophical hole, but I believe that racism is a conscious choice at some level and mental illness is not.
      - lutusp 13y ago
        > Then does not saying racist things automatically make you not-racist? No, that doesn't work. A person not saying racist things might be a racist on his day off. The absence of racist speech cannot be used to declare a person not racist, because: 1. The person might harbor racist but unspoken thoughts. 2. We're all racists. Number (2) pretty much settles the issue. I emphasize that the fact that we're all racists doesn't mean we're all bigots, or that we're not ashamed of our racism and sincerely wish to be free of racism. > I believe that racism is a conscious choice at some level and mental illness is not. I've met people raised in the south before modern times, and for many of them, racism was not a conscious choice. I've often disagreed with federal intervention in local politics, but as to civil rights, I have to say that was one case where federal intervention was absolutely necessary and just: http://media.northjersey.com/images/0825t_shuttle2_50p.jpg http://media.northjersey.com/images/0825t_shuttle2_50p.jpg Also, mental illness can sometimes be a conscious choice as well. We can talk ourselves into a very unhealthy mental state -- or out of one. I'm talking only about the many kinds of mental illness that aren't biological in origin -- the kinds of mental illness that were voted into existence, and that make the DSM* noticeably bigger with each new revision. * More about the DSM controversy: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/05/the-scientific-backlash-against-the-dsm.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/05/the-s... EDIT: I cannot believe someone downvoted this terrific reply. If I say so myself, it's first-rate, and it represents the height of irony that it was downvoted.

by clicks 13y ago

sillysaurus2 13y ago

He is schizophrenic. One of the defining features of schizophrenia is that they can't be reasoned with. They have periods of complete lucidity followed by periods of complete craziness due to physical deterioration of the brain. He deserves a good doctor. If we can do anything, then we should set up a fund for medical treatment. He has said that doctors haven't been able to help him, but maybe whoever is caring for him hasn't been able to afford top-tier care. It makes a huge difference. In practice, setting up such a fund would be difficult because we don't know who's caring for him or how.

billadoid 13y ago

He's quite racist[0] and people won't tolerate his hate. It's for the best he got hellbanned, so the "saner" ones won't be tempted to get into a flame war with him. [0]:http://i.imgur.com/IIMGYKE.png http://i.imgur.com/IIMGYKE.png (the last comment made me laugh)

sillysaurus2 13y ago
He's not necessarily racist. He's suffering from a mental illness. He believes god talks to him.
- tinco 13y ago
  Saying racist things makes you racist, wether you are mentally ill or not. It does mean we should judge him less for it. But it also means it might be a good decision to ban him so that he does not tarnish the community with too many flame threads.
  - tippytop 13y ago
    Then does not saying racist things automatically make you not-racist? Or is there other criteria we need to apply before hanging the label? For example, do they believe the words coming out of their own mouth? What about someone with Tourette's? I'm not trying to fall in a philosophical hole, but I believe that racism is a conscious choice at some level and mental illness is not.
    - lutusp 13y ago
      > Then does not saying racist things automatically make you not-racist? No, that doesn't work. A person not saying racist things might be a racist on his day off. The absence of racist speech cannot be used to declare a person not racist, because: 1. The person might harbor racist but unspoken thoughts. 2. We're all racists. Number (2) pretty much settles the issue. I emphasize that the fact that we're all racists doesn't mean we're all bigots, or that we're not ashamed of our racism and sincerely wish to be free of racism. > I believe that racism is a conscious choice at some level and mental illness is not. I've met people raised in the south before modern times, and for many of them, racism was not a conscious choice. I've often disagreed with federal intervention in local politics, but as to civil rights, I have to say that was one case where federal intervention was absolutely necessary and just: http://media.northjersey.com/images/0825t_shuttle2_50p.jpg http://media.northjersey.com/images/0825t_shuttle2_50p.jpg Also, mental illness can sometimes be a conscious choice as well. We can talk ourselves into a very unhealthy mental state -- or out of one. I'm talking only about the many kinds of mental illness that aren't biological in origin -- the kinds of mental illness that were voted into existence, and that make the DSM* noticeably bigger with each new revision. * More about the DSM controversy: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/05/the-scientific-backlash-against-the-dsm.html http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/05/the-s... EDIT: I cannot believe someone downvoted this terrific reply. If I say so myself, it's first-rate, and it represents the height of irony that it was downvoted.