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Here's a suggestion I read early on in the Snowden-storm that hit HN, and that I thought was reasonable: If Microsoft and Google are really united and seriousl
by sounds 13y ago
Here's a suggestion I read early on in the Snowden-storm that hit HN, and that I thought was reasonable:
If Microsoft and Google are really united and seriously hurting, why don't they each individually (not acting as a cartel) kick the NSA out of their data centers? There may be a lawsuit, yes, and there will likely be a hit to their share value, but it's that same old problem of trading short-term safety for long-term freedoms.
It's a good way for them to put the money where the mouth is. Yes, I'm aware of the "requirements" to allow monitoring equipment; I'm specifically calling for the executives of these companies to engage in civil disobedience. Politicians are famously sensitive to anything that actually gets the attention of the _masses_. Like, shutting down Google due to court-ordered monitoring and Google refusing to comply. How long would the NSA endure such a standoff before backing down with some weasel-words about "coming to an agreement"?
- spankalee 13y agoGoogle at least says that the NSA is _not_ in their data centers, and that there isn't and never was any "direct access". So how can they kick the NSA out if they're not there? Google admits to granting lawful requests for data, such as warrants and NSLs, but this appears to be by delivering the requested data via some non-direct-access means like CD or SFTP. Google is not a telecom and does not have to implement wiretapping like Verizon, etc., so there's no law requiring equipment or access.