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The best part is that even in the US, after a family of homeschoolers sought and obtained asylum from Germany here, our own Department of Justice appealed the c
by fennecfoxen 13y ago
The best part is that even in the US, after a family of homeschoolers sought and obtained asylum from Germany here, our own Department of Justice appealed the court decision and asked to have them deported, making excuses about how the goal of the mandatory public schooling is so laudable (tolerance etc).
Other fun facts to point out:
* the German government is officially going to "look for possibilities to bring the religious convictions of the family into line with the unalterable school attendance requirement"
* the laws that eliminated the homeschooling option literally date back to the Hitler regime.
- skylan_q 13y agothe laws that eliminated the homeschooling option literally date back to the Hitler regime. It goes further back. The Prussian regime was basically the founder of our current institutionalized public education system in the west as we know it today.
- fennecfoxen 13y agoYes, but from what I understand you could still get a couple of loopholes and exemptions in the pre-Hitler Youth era.
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- rdtsc 13y ago> the laws that eliminated the homeschooling option literally date back to the Hitler regime So does the Autobahn. Clearly, it should be torn down and replaced with gravel roads.
- gallamine 13y ago> So does the Autobahn, clearly it should be torn down and replaced with gravel roads. Except Hitler's plan for controlling the country didn't hinge on providing fast roads.
- Retric 13y agoActually it did as the roads where of significant military value. (Not that it is relevant to this discussion or most of today's users, just an interesting side note.)
- rdtsc 13y agoAnd if it was, would you recommend tearing them down? That was the point, if this is the main argument against home schooling then it is obvious there isn't just much to go on.
- gallamine 13y agoNo. I think my point (badly made) was that there seems to be a clear difference between infrastructure and one's right to parent as they see fit.
- fennecfoxen 13y agoOh comma yes obviously.
- barry-cotter 13y agoI can understand the State Department's point of view. All Germans are entitled to live and work throughout the EEA (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Lichtenstein). Most of Western Europe is okay with homeschooling. I know it can be done in Austria.
- hga 13y agoNotice the bit about the children's passports being seized? I don't think that nice theory is going to play out well in the real world. As for the asylum case, Romeike v. Holder, the government appeal succeeded and its now in the hands of the circuit's Federal appeals court.
- icebraining 13y agoIn the EU, you don't need to have your passport to travel to other countries; a national ID card will do.
- barry-cotter 13y agoWhat nice theory? Passports are state property. I can't read the article, in China. But you can travel without a passport within the Schengen area. If they can get unsupervised access to their kids they should fuck off with them elsewhere in the EU. There will be neither public nor legal support for homeschooling in Germany and I doubt they'd win if they got to the European Court of Human Rights either. If they stay in Germany they lose their kids or their religion. Flight is their best option.
- hga 13y agoThe nice theory is that "All Germans are entitled to live and work throughout the EEA (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Lichtenstein)", which fails hard when your passports are seized. Sounds like we're violently agreeing; still, I wonder why they haven't taken this step prior to now.