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Pedophiles and terrorists use high-strength crypto to transmit dangerous and illegal information. There's no reason normal citizens need high-strength crypto. B

Pedophiles and terrorists use high-strength crypto to transmit dangerous and illegal information. There's no reason normal citizens need high-strength crypto. Besides, if it came down to it, do you really think your crypto would stand a chance against the government's three letter agencies? You can still protect yourself from passive script kiddies with ROT13.

sukuriant 13y ago
For those that didn't catch it, Jay is using a mock version of the anti-gun argument in his response here. I'm pretty sure his views aren't that at all (but a part of me is terrified to think that someone will use his response as a defense for crypto to not be in normal users' hands, taking what he said completely out of context)
- EthanHeilman 13y ago
  Wait until they start using words like "assault crypto" or military grade-crypto. Why does any citizen need the crypto that is used in warfare? They aren't in combat, why do they need more than 54-bit keys? Who are they so worried about anyway?
  - hga 13y ago
    "There is no need in American civilian life for these weapons of war." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine) The next time they come for the gun owners (well, that would be yesterday: http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/08/29/obama-issues-executive-orders-to-screw-us/ http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/08/29/obama-issues-executive-o...) you might want to consider that this set of rights is indivisible.
  - pampa 13y ago
    Or better yet: Crypto of mass destruction!
zaphar 13y ago
There's no reason normal citizens need high-strength crypto. You seem to think that normal citizens have no need to hide things. I deem this assumption to be false. Witness "normal" citizens in various foreign countries with opprosive regimes whose very lives require they hide things.
dwaltrip 13y ago
Poe's law FTW

sukuriant 13y ago

For those that didn't catch it, Jay is using a mock version of the anti-gun argument in his response here. I'm pretty sure his views aren't that at all (but a part of me is terrified to think that someone will use his response as a defense for crypto to not be in normal users' hands, taking what he said completely out of context)

EthanHeilman 13y ago
Wait until they start using words like "assault crypto" or military grade-crypto. Why does any citizen need the crypto that is used in warfare? They aren't in combat, why do they need more than 54-bit keys? Who are they so worried about anyway?
- hga 13y ago
  "There is no need in American civilian life for these weapons of war." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine) The next time they come for the gun owners (well, that would be yesterday: http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/08/29/obama-issues-executive-orders-to-screw-us/ http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/08/29/obama-issues-executive-o...) you might want to consider that this set of rights is indivisible.
- pampa 13y ago
  Or better yet: Crypto of mass destruction!

zaphar 13y ago

There's no reason normal citizens need high-strength crypto. You seem to think that normal citizens have no need to hide things. I deem this assumption to be false. Witness "normal" citizens in various foreign countries with opprosive regimes whose very lives require they hide things.

dwaltrip 13y ago

Poe's law FTW