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This feels like a troll review. I recognize that it's not, but it feels that way. His main objection is that the CODE keyboard is not ergonomic. The ergonomi

by gortok 13y ago

This feels like a troll review. I recognize that it's not, but it feels that way. His main objection is that the CODE keyboard is not ergonomic. The ergonomic keyboard marketplace is very small compared to the 'standard' keyboard marketplace. In fact, once you get past the Microsoft Natural 4000 (which I'm typing this post on), the field gets esoteric, very quickly: http://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Corporation-KB800PB-US-Freestyle2-Separation/dp/B0089ZSEMO/ref=sr_1_62?ie=UTF8&qid=1377877251&sr=8-62&keywords=ergonomic+keyboard http://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Corporation-KB800PB-US-Freesty... Second, the things he doesn't like about the CODE keyboard are the very reasons why the CODE keyboard was created: - No multimedia keys (because really -- they're a pain in the rear) - App launch keys (see above) - Can't press alt with thumb curl (this isn't even home row at this point -- I can't imagine a thumb curl being seen as ergonomically safe). I don't really see this as a review of the keyboard in as much as I see it as a rant about a keyboard the user doesn't like. I don't even see evidence that the user has actually purchased the keyboard, which I feel like should be a requirement if you're going to review a product.

drdaeman 13y ago
> No multimedia keys (because really -- they're a pain in the rear) While I completely agree about pointless "launch browser" buttons, I find the basic multimedia keys to be quite essential. It's a royal pain when one has to waggle mouse for a whole second or use tricky global shortcut keys around when there's a need to quickly mute music or change volume.
- darklajid 13y ago
  Maybe I have a different understanding of 'multimedia keys', but both you, your parent and the reviewer seem to think that there are none on the keyboard in question. That's weird, since it _does_ have them (or some of them? No idea what would be missing here, I don't even use these). That's puts the review into a weird kind of light as well: It has its facts wrong in the first paragraph.. http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg
  - drdaeman 13y ago
    No, I was thinking about the same keys. I didn't notice them from the first glance and believed the comment I've replied to, that there aren't any. Sorry about that.
- webignition 13y ago
  I find it interesting that you say this since it's quite opposite to my needs and usage. I find multimedia keys to be an annoyance. I only press a multimedia key by mistake when intending to hit a different key or when trying to rest the fingers of my right hand above the cursor keys (I'm left-handed and often rest my right-hand fingers when using only the mouse). I'm not suggesting your view is incorrect or wrong in any way. Just interesting to see how one person's necessity is another person's annoyance.
rch 13y ago
I felt the same way, but randomly followed a link to one of the suggested alternates and found it pretty compelling. Besides looking like a nice device, one can apparently configure a custom key layout with a web app and download the adjusted firmware[1]. So, while I dislike the review site itself, the content was ultimately helpful. Maybe I just don't have the same aesthetic sense those who have serious opinions about keyboards. http://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/layout-designer--configurator--reprogrammable--truly-ergonomic-mechanical-keyboard/ http://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/layout-designer--configu...
- busterarm 13y ago
  Watch out if you're a Mac user. The TEK has some serious detection problems with Macs. Same with Windows 8. Also, their customer support is beyond useless. Firmware problems still unfixed from original models. The company has a long history of failed promises and it took them _forever_ to get that remapping tool out...basically only after Ergodox started stealing all of their customers.
carlob 13y ago
If you browse this blog you'll see he likes to troll sometimes…
notJim 13y ago
> - No multimedia keys (because really -- they're a pain in the rear) I don't know why people keep saying this. It clearly does have media keys: http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg That being said, I don't know why someone who wants media keys would put them behind a stupid function key.
noselasd 13y ago
> This feels like a troll review. It might be. https://www.google.no/search?q=xahlee+troll https://www.google.no/search?q=xahlee+troll
serf 13y ago
I don't agree with the kinesis options being that esoteric. They are well known and loved in many computer enthusiast communities, this one espescially.

by gortok 13y ago

drdaeman 13y ago

> No multimedia keys (because really -- they're a pain in the rear) While I completely agree about pointless "launch browser" buttons, I find the basic multimedia keys to be quite essential. It's a royal pain when one has to waggle mouse for a whole second or use tricky global shortcut keys around when there's a need to quickly mute music or change volume.

darklajid 13y ago
Maybe I have a different understanding of 'multimedia keys', but both you, your parent and the reviewer seem to think that there are none on the keyboard in question. That's weird, since it _does_ have them (or some of them? No idea what would be missing here, I don't even use these). That's puts the review into a weird kind of light as well: It has its facts wrong in the first paragraph.. http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg
- drdaeman 13y ago
  No, I was thinking about the same keys. I didn't notice them from the first glance and believed the comment I've replied to, that there aren't any. Sorry about that.
webignition 13y ago
I find it interesting that you say this since it's quite opposite to my needs and usage. I find multimedia keys to be an annoyance. I only press a multimedia key by mistake when intending to hit a different key or when trying to rest the fingers of my right hand above the cursor keys (I'm left-handed and often rest my right-hand fingers when using only the mouse). I'm not suggesting your view is incorrect or wrong in any way. Just interesting to see how one person's necessity is another person's annoyance.

rch 13y ago

I felt the same way, but randomly followed a link to one of the suggested alternates and found it pretty compelling. Besides looking like a nice device, one can apparently configure a custom key layout with a web app and download the adjusted firmware[1]. So, while I dislike the review site itself, the content was ultimately helpful. Maybe I just don't have the same aesthetic sense those who have serious opinions about keyboards. http://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/layout-designer--configurator--reprogrammable--truly-ergonomic-mechanical-keyboard/ http://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/layout-designer--configu...

busterarm 13y ago
Watch out if you're a Mac user. The TEK has some serious detection problems with Macs. Same with Windows 8. Also, their customer support is beyond useless. Firmware problems still unfixed from original models. The company has a long history of failed promises and it took them _forever_ to get that remapping tool out...basically only after Ergodox started stealing all of their customers.

carlob 13y ago

If you browse this blog you'll see he likes to troll sometimes…

notJim 13y ago

> - No multimedia keys (because really -- they're a pain in the rear) I don't know why people keep saying this. It clearly does have media keys: http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg http://codekeyboards.com/img/code-mediakeys.jpg That being said, I don't know why someone who wants media keys would put them behind a stupid function key.

noselasd 13y ago

> This feels like a troll review. It might be. https://www.google.no/search?q=xahlee+troll https://www.google.no/search?q=xahlee+troll

serf 13y ago

I don't agree with the kinesis options being that esoteric. They are well known and loved in many computer enthusiast communities, this one espescially.