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I really think we need a search command to break out of the bubble on google, you are right 90% of the time its the right choice but the other 10 your screwed,

by taproot 13y ago

I really think we need a search command to break out of the bubble on google, you are right 90% of the time its the right choice but the other 10 your screwed, some trial and error with removing the offending terms but sometimes it just doesnt.

imurray 13y ago
https://startpage.com/ https://startpage.com/ gives you Google search results minus personalization.
- Aldipower 13y ago
  And startpage.com is located in the Netherlands and not in the USA like DuckDuckGo. I can not trust USA services anymore. DuckDuckGo is located in the Amazon Cloud and Amazon is the next target of the NSA.
- eis 13y ago
  startpage.com includes ads from Google and forwards you upon a result click to google.com/aclk for tracking purposes. Please do not spread this site saying it does not submit data to Google. It does guaranteed for the ads, and knowing the search engine scene a bit I would also bet that they submit your IP and useragent to Google for every search query. It seems recently everybody accepts those claims about privacy protecting search engines without checking anything.
  - MitziMoto 13y ago
    Relax, all he said was that it removes the personalization, which it does.
  - imurray 13y ago
    As a sibling comment says, I didn't actually make any privacy statements. However, startpage's help pages claim not to pass on IP addresses, useragents, cookies, or other identifying information. This claimed-independent report says so too: https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/awarded-seals/de-110022/ https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/awarded-seals/de-110022... — verifying such statements is hard; believe what you will. I agree, it seems clicking on the Google ads (rather than search results) does put a request via google.com/aclk. Privacy conscious users could block ads to avoid such mistakes. Of course startpage must send some data to google: the search terms are needed to get the search results themselves (as well as for selecting the ads). That could be a privacy leak, for example if simultaneously searching for a name and a sensitive topic. It doesn't seem nearly as bad as tying the search terms to a unique identifier across searches however.
  - superuser2 13y ago
    Google can't not track which results are clicked for which queries. It'd be impossible to build a decent algorithm without measuring how well it works for people.

by taproot 13y ago

imurray 13y ago

https://startpage.com/ https://startpage.com/ gives you Google search results minus personalization.

Aldipower 13y ago
And startpage.com is located in the Netherlands and not in the USA like DuckDuckGo. I can not trust USA services anymore. DuckDuckGo is located in the Amazon Cloud and Amazon is the next target of the NSA.
eis 13y ago
startpage.com includes ads from Google and forwards you upon a result click to google.com/aclk for tracking purposes. Please do not spread this site saying it does not submit data to Google. It does guaranteed for the ads, and knowing the search engine scene a bit I would also bet that they submit your IP and useragent to Google for every search query. It seems recently everybody accepts those claims about privacy protecting search engines without checking anything.
- MitziMoto 13y ago
  Relax, all he said was that it removes the personalization, which it does.
- imurray 13y ago
  As a sibling comment says, I didn't actually make any privacy statements. However, startpage's help pages claim not to pass on IP addresses, useragents, cookies, or other identifying information. This claimed-independent report says so too: https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/awarded-seals/de-110022/ https://www.european-privacy-seal.eu/awarded-seals/de-110022... — verifying such statements is hard; believe what you will. I agree, it seems clicking on the Google ads (rather than search results) does put a request via google.com/aclk. Privacy conscious users could block ads to avoid such mistakes. Of course startpage must send some data to google: the search terms are needed to get the search results themselves (as well as for selecting the ads). That could be a privacy leak, for example if simultaneously searching for a name and a sensitive topic. It doesn't seem nearly as bad as tying the search terms to a unique identifier across searches however.
- superuser2 13y ago
  Google can't not track which results are clicked for which queries. It'd be impossible to build a decent algorithm without measuring how well it works for people.