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Sure but then the only distinction is price, and this just becomes about getting stuff for free.

mattl 13y ago
No, the difference is knowing that you're using software that encourages software sharing, rather than software hoarding.
- engrenage 13y ago
  You mean software that encourages money hoarding? If that's your preference, then go for it. Personally I'd prefer to know I'm using software that encourages money sharing.
  - alextingle 13y ago
    I get the feeling that you have no idea what we are talking about in this thread. "mattl" said "software sharing", and you immediately assume that he meant "money sharing"??
    - engrenage 13y ago
      I get the feeling that you didn't read what I wrote. I made no such assumption. Mattl likes to use open source software because he thinks it encourages software sharing. I actually agree with that, and have non-trivially contributed to and consumed open source software in my work. However I don't agree that all software should be open source because that discourages people from sharing money with programmers. What I object to is not the idea of open source, which is a great thing. It's the fundamentalism and moralizing against anything which does not completely fit some idealogue's definition, and yet which also provides great value.
qq66 13y ago
Not at all, it's also about preference and the very nature of ownership. Imagine that Ford cars had radios which only allowed you to listen to rock and roll radio stations. And GM cars had radios which only allowed you to listen to country music stations. Might you not prefer to tear out this weird factory radio and replace it with a radio that tuned into whatever damn radio station you want to listen to?
- engrenage 13y ago
  I might like my car to allow me to install a chesterfield sofa as the driver's seat, but I don't complain that ford has locked down my choice of seats into a walled garden. Presumably you'd complain that you'd like to be able to sit in 'any damn seat you please' too.
  - qq66 13y ago
    Well actually, you can very easily buy aftermarket seats, tires, mufflers, radios, or almost anything you please on your car. It's the opposite of the phone ecosystem.
    - engrenage 13y ago
      You can't fit a chesterfield sofa because the chassis isn't designed for that. Exactly like the phone ecosystem.

mattl 13y ago

No, the difference is knowing that you're using software that encourages software sharing, rather than software hoarding.

engrenage 13y ago
You mean software that encourages money hoarding? If that's your preference, then go for it. Personally I'd prefer to know I'm using software that encourages money sharing.
- alextingle 13y ago
  I get the feeling that you have no idea what we are talking about in this thread. "mattl" said "software sharing", and you immediately assume that he meant "money sharing"??
  - engrenage 13y ago
    I get the feeling that you didn't read what I wrote. I made no such assumption. Mattl likes to use open source software because he thinks it encourages software sharing. I actually agree with that, and have non-trivially contributed to and consumed open source software in my work. However I don't agree that all software should be open source because that discourages people from sharing money with programmers. What I object to is not the idea of open source, which is a great thing. It's the fundamentalism and moralizing against anything which does not completely fit some idealogue's definition, and yet which also provides great value.

qq66 13y ago

Not at all, it's also about preference and the very nature of ownership. Imagine that Ford cars had radios which only allowed you to listen to rock and roll radio stations. And GM cars had radios which only allowed you to listen to country music stations. Might you not prefer to tear out this weird factory radio and replace it with a radio that tuned into whatever damn radio station you want to listen to?

engrenage 13y ago
I might like my car to allow me to install a chesterfield sofa as the driver's seat, but I don't complain that ford has locked down my choice of seats into a walled garden. Presumably you'd complain that you'd like to be able to sit in 'any damn seat you please' too.
- qq66 13y ago
  Well actually, you can very easily buy aftermarket seats, tires, mufflers, radios, or almost anything you please on your car. It's the opposite of the phone ecosystem.
  - engrenage 13y ago
    You can't fit a chesterfield sofa because the chassis isn't designed for that. Exactly like the phone ecosystem.