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I don't think it is clear at all. Woz's description of their respective role is crystal clear, and Job's description is clear only if you already know Woz's des
by RogerL 13y ago
I don't think it is clear at all. Woz's description of their respective role is crystal clear, and Job's description is clear only if you already know Woz's description.
But, convince me, don't belittle me. What words did Jobs say in that video to convey that what he did was envision the end-user version of the computer (which I agree is what he did).
edit: I am not suggesting something unheard of, after all. Google 'jobs takes credit for others work' and relevant links fill the page. Here's the top one:
http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-would-annoy-jony-ive-by-taking-credit-for-his-design-work-2011-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-would-annoy-jony-i...
- OafTobark 13y agoIt is easy to claim Jobs takes credit for others work but I also think its fair to say that for most people who cofound a company, whether they are technical or not, they will often use the word "we" when describing something they've worked on.
- taigeair 13y agoYou just say we when you talk about your team or company to outsiders. It's pretty normal. You don't say our engineer bob spent months on it.
- pbreit 13y agoThe engineering portions of output are much easier to quantify. The non-engineering portions are much more difficult to quantify but much, much more important.
- pbreit 13y agoI Googled it, and there were 2 or 3 results...the Ive quote, something from Woz and maybe one more. I'd be curious what the complete context is on the Ive quote. I think a good deal of the mis-placement of responsibility has to do with some people's attachment to novel-ness vs. other's respect for piecing together something marketable.
- pbreit 13y agoI Googled it, and there were 2 or 3 results...the Ive quote, something from Woz and maybe one more. I'd be curious what the complete context is on the Ive quote. I think a good deal of the mis-placement of responsibility has to do with some people's attachment to novel-ness vs. other's respect for piecing together something marketable. I appreciate invention but understand that it is useless without marketing. Not so the other way around.