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There are appears to be a strong trend these days in certain circles to demonize Steve Jobs in some way or other. Simply mentioning his name either here or on r
by wakkalakka 13y ago
There are appears to be a strong trend these days in certain circles to demonize Steve Jobs in some way or other. Simply mentioning his name either here or on reddit (and probably a few other places) is often enough to garner a large number of replies saying he wasn't a genius and was just a salesman / marketer, etc.
The fact is, he did have a proven track record of being able to distill various concepts and functions into products that people loved -- not just liked, but loved. When presented with a prototype or the beginnings of an idea, he knew what to keep, what to throw away, and what to change. He knew how to keep at it until it was truly great. So great that it could turn entire industries on their heads. So great that whole companies would spend years trying to imitate the results. He did this many times during his life, enough times so that it is pretty much impossible to say that it was merely accident; he clearly knew what he was doing.
The results are so striking and so clearly beyond that which other people working at the same time were able to produce that I think it's safe to say Steve Jobs was exhibiting a next-level talent, one of those talents that even people whom we normally think of as extremely talented find difficult to even comprehend, let alone replicate. Because of this I think it is truly fitting to use the word "genius" when describing what he could do, even if it was not the skills of an engineer. I know using that word will probably incur some of the replies I was just talking about, but that's how I see it.
When it comes down to it, Steve Jobs probably could have been a good or even great engineer if he had set his mind to it, but he had a much rarer talent around which he chose to build his career. I can't help but feel that a lot of the vitriol directed at him is because people either do not understand or on some level actively resent what made him different.
- RogerL 13y agoI agree with a lot of this, but Jobs made plenty of blunders as well. Computers without disk drives, keyboards without arrow keys, etc - all things that were put on the market with Jobs vehemently arguing that it was the only, and correct choice, .... and then Apple backpedaled. Which is not intended to counter your "next-level" talent claim - I wholeheartedly agree. I guess statements like "he knew what to keep" give me pause because he did, clearly, make plenty of blunders. As Woz said [1] "Steve never created a great computer. In that period, he had failure after failure after failure. He had an incredible vision, but he didn't have the ability to execute on it. I would be surprised if the movie portrays the truth." One can be (must be?) flawed and still a genius. Some people (not you) deny the flawed part, and that rankles me. [1]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jobs-ashton-kutcher-responds-steve-602679 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jobs-ashton-kutcher-re... edit: sorry, the floppy thing was NeXT, not Apple.
- scintill76 13y agoThe mouse with one button, they finally gave in and have two now.