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Split between them? You should read how Jobs got some work with Atari, got Woz to do the work and said they'd split it 50-50. Atari paid Jobs $5000, told Woz th

by soperj 13y ago

Split between them? You should read how Jobs got some work with Atari, got Woz to do the work and said they'd split it 50-50. Atari paid Jobs $5000, told Woz they paid him $700. Kept the rest.

lambdasquirrel 13y ago
Woz himself said that the money was no big deal. If this was a big deal, he should have confronted Jobs about it in person. Unfortunately, society at large does not really care about "fairness." People have a tendency to blame the victim, and that victim would be us. People do not intrinsically value what we do. They value what we can do for them. To that end, it's easy to understand why they would prefer the story of Jobs to the story of Wozniak. Saying that Jobs was not a coder did not significantly hurt Jobs. Jobs may have been an asshole, but he had enough charisma to go keep going. Saying that Jobs was not a coder hurt engineers because it pigeonholes us into the technical-only side of things. Woz did the engineering and hardware design. Jobs did everything else. Ultimately, in any such situation, it is important to keep this kind of drama under the sheets. Most people are not like Jobs. Most management would not be able to deal with the fallout of these kinds of statements. I know a lot of engineers IRL who resent Jobs because of these things. My response to them has always been: start your own business, because the more technical entrepreneurs there are out there, the less likely that a future Jobs figure would act the way that Jobs did.
- JackpotDen 13y ago
  >society at large does not really care about "fairness." [Citation needed] Perpetuating these sorts of things spreads them.
soperj 13y ago
For some reason it won't let me reply to you. Anyway, He said the _money_ was no big deal, that he would have done it for free. The outright lie/ money grab was a big deal. If he'd learned about it earlier instead of 10 years after the fact he probably wouldn't have gone into business with him.

by soperj 13y ago

Split between them? You should read how Jobs got some work with Atari, got Woz to do the work and said they'd split it 50-50. Atari paid Jobs $5000, told Woz they paid him $700. Kept the rest.

lambdasquirrel 13y ago

Woz himself said that the money was no big deal. If this was a big deal, he should have confronted Jobs about it in person. Unfortunately, society at large does not really care about "fairness." People have a tendency to blame the victim, and that victim would be us. People do not intrinsically value what we do. They value what we can do for them. To that end, it's easy to understand why they would prefer the story of Jobs to the story of Wozniak. Saying that Jobs was not a coder did not significantly hurt Jobs. Jobs may have been an asshole, but he had enough charisma to go keep going. Saying that Jobs was not a coder hurt engineers because it pigeonholes us into the technical-only side of things. Woz did the engineering and hardware design. Jobs did everything else. Ultimately, in any such situation, it is important to keep this kind of drama under the sheets. Most people are not like Jobs. Most management would not be able to deal with the fallout of these kinds of statements. I know a lot of engineers IRL who resent Jobs because of these things. My response to them has always been: start your own business, because the more technical entrepreneurs there are out there, the less likely that a future Jobs figure would act the way that Jobs did.

JackpotDen 13y ago
>society at large does not really care about "fairness." [Citation needed] Perpetuating these sorts of things spreads them.

soperj 13y ago

For some reason it won't let me reply to you. Anyway, He said the _money_ was no big deal, that he would have done it for free. The outright lie/ money grab was a big deal. If he'd learned about it earlier instead of 10 years after the fact he probably wouldn't have gone into business with him.