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Removing bullets from people causes violent crime. Look, we can statistically show that everywhere someone has tried to do something about people getting injur
by VikingCoder 13y ago
Removing bullets from people causes violent crime.
Look, we can statistically show that everywhere someone has tried to do something about people getting injured with guns, there is more violent gun crime!
We must stop these surgeons! Clearly, by trying to help, they're causing the problem!
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- onebaddude 13y agoDon't assume that everyone, especially Harvard researchers, are as ignorant of statistics, correlation and causation as you appear to be. Their intention and conclusion is clear in the paper. They aren't making any bold, ridiculous claims.
- VikingCoder 13y agoFirst, "as you appear to be." Where did that come from? Do you have any basis for that thought, or do you just enjoy typing angry words that sound good to you? Second, the Hacker News article headline is, "Less guns = more violence." That is an absolute declaration of causation. The linked article makes this assertion without any backing: And enacting legislation without proper evidence supporting that it will have the desired effects can actually result in, as these studies show, the complete opposite. The study does not show that. In fact: we are not arguing that the data in Table 2 shows that gun control _causes_ nations to have much higher murder rates than neighboring nations that permit handgun ownership. As close as they get in the report: these [laws] do not reduce violence, While the linked article claims that they increase violence. TL;DR: The linked article makes false claims about what the report says, and the Hacker News article headline is just as bad or worse.