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Engineers hate lying, not soft skills. Thank you for pointing out this very important distinction. I think it's important to realize that Jobs was human and n
by 300bps 13y ago
Engineers hate lying, not soft skills.
Thank you for pointing out this very important distinction. I think it's important to realize that Jobs was human and not the most humane among us. It's easy to realize if you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs
Development of the Apple Lisa computer began in the year of Brennan's birth, just as Apple Computer, the company her father founded, began to experience significant growth. Jobs initially denied paternity, and he and Apple claimed that the name was an acronym for "Local Integrated Software Architecture".[5] Steve Jobs swore in court documents that he could not be Lisa's father because he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child."[2]
Decades later, Jobs admitted to his biographer Walter Isaacson, "Obviously, it was named for my daughter."[
The guy swore under oath and penalty of perjury that he was incapable of fathering the daughter he in fact fathered and concocted an elaborate story to explain away why he named one of Apple's computers after this girl that he claimed was not his daughter.
So I agree with you; engineers tend to deal in reality. Many people are successful because they successfully sell non-reality to people when it suits their purpose. Engineers tend to have problems with such people.
- garyrob 13y agoI just want to say kudos to the above responses. I think they're right on the money. In fact, I think the main reason I got into engineering in the first place is that I couldn't stand people's bullshit. In engineering, it actually matters whether what you say is true or not, because if it isn't, the thing won't work.
- na85 13y agoGet over yourself. There are plenty of fields where "it won't work" if you lie. Law? Surgery? Let's leave aside for a second the enormous number of programmers who aren't actually engineers (with an engineering degree) who still use the Engineer title.
- nichtich 13y agoAlthough I agree that "There are plenty of fields where "it won't work" if you lie." But Law? Surgery? are not the examples you should choose, both had plenty of cases where lying did work.
- 001sky 13y agoI believe both fields have formalized codes of eithics, tho. you can be disbasrred or struck off the list of licesed practitioners for 'lying'. That being said, their is a continuum on considerations, even professionally. Physicians need to maintain a diplomatic bedside manner; counsel needs to advocate adversarially the strongest position, etc. In these examples, the notion of black and white is best not clung too strenuously. Perjury, negligence, and fruadulen billing, etc of course are at the othe end of the spectrum.
- brymaster 13y ago> There are plenty of fields where "it won't work" if you lie. Law? The field of Law is based on interpretation and persuasive authority.
- vwinsyee 13y agoSorry, I had to chuckle when I saw you include law as one of the fields where lying "won't work." For many parties, lying in court does "work" for them if they can get away with it. Recent case in point: the DEA using NSA intercepts to launch investigations, then lie in court about how these investigations originally started. [1] [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE...
- na85 13y agoLitigation/trial law is but a small part of the Law profession. Perjury is also a felony, despite the fact that your country's justice system doesn't seem to enforce it.
- xtracto 13y ago