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I don't understand where your hostility comes from. From the dishonest spin that you put on everything you say. I wrote: That's equivalent to popping up

by moe 13y ago

I don't understand where your hostility comes from. From the dishonest spin that you put on everything you say. I wrote: That's equivalent to popping up shareware nag-screens into my face. You reply with: "popping up shareware nag-screens at random intervals" is completely false. There are absolutely no nag-screens in Phusion Passenger. These little 'misunderstandings' and strawmen add up. Consequently I won't even comment on your further spin-doctoring here. I'll just encourage anyone interested in the matter to also read what EngineYard and UserVoice say about passenger; https://blog.engineyard.com/2012/passenger-vs-unicorn https://blog.engineyard.com/2012/passenger-vs-unicorn https://developer.uservoice.com/blog/2012/08/08/the-dark-passenger/ https://developer.uservoice.com/blog/2012/08/08/the-dark-pas...

FooBarWidget 13y ago
I'm pretty sure you literally said "popping up shareware nag-screens at random intervals" instead of "that's equivalen to", but whatever, I'll take your word for it, in good faith, that you did not edit your post and that I read your post wrong. Like I said before: errors during redeploy are not supposed to happen even in the open source version, and if they do happen then we are very interested in fixing them. Please tell us more. There is no need to spin this as being "dishonest". If you don't believe us, tell us about your problem, let us fix it, and verify for yourself that it is fixed. Only the facts matter. As for the Engine Yard and Uservoice.com post: 1. All problems that the Engine Yard post talked about, were fixed 2 days after they published that article (http://blog.phusion.nl/2012/09/21/the-right-way-to-deal-with-frozen-processes-on-unix/ http://blog.phusion.nl/2012/09/21/the-right-way-to-deal-with...). If you are still experiencing those problems, tell us, and we'll fix it. By the way, did you notice that EngineYard said something entirely different about Phusion Passenger and Unicorn later on? https://www.engineyard.com/articles/rails-server https://www.engineyard.com/articles/rails-server 2. Almost all problems that that the Uservoice.com talked about, have been fixed in Phusion Passenger 4.0, open source version. 3. There are also plenty of posts that describe migrating from Unicorn to Phusion Passenger, e.g. https://speakerdeck.com/arnvald/dot-dot-dot-but-we-had-to-kill-unicorns https://speakerdeck.com/arnvald/dot-dot-dot-but-we-had-to-ki.... So what does that mean? Experiences differ, for all sorts of reasons, some legit and some not (e.g. inefficient configuration). Neither kinds of posts automatically mean that Unicorn/Phusion Passenger is bad: there will always be people having problems with a particular technology. That's why we encourage people who have problems to contact our support forum.
- moe 13y ago
  I'm pretty sure you literally said "popping up shareware nag-screens at random intervals" instead of "that's equivalen to", but whatever, I'll take your word for it, in good faith, that you did not edit your post and that I read your post wrong. Wait, what... You edited this line into your reply hours after you initially posted it. Hoping I would miss it or something? And in this very edit you have the nerve to suggest I edit my comment after the fact to spin shit around? Look at the position of the 'popping up' phrase in my post. How would saying it in any way other than it's written make any sense, syntactically? And why would I claim passenger pops up literal nag screens, when everyone knows that's complete nonsense? I do appreciate you showing your true colors in this thread. I'll make sure to link to it every time I run into one of your 'PR excursions' in the future.
  - FooBarWidget 13y ago
    In other news: I've been asking other online communities as well in the hope of finding other users who have experienced the kind of problem you reported (http://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1lceav/ask_rreddit_does_anybody_experience_errors_while/ http://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1lceav/ask_rreddit_doe...). Unfortunately I haven't received a single answer so far. Any feedback from you about the nature of the problem would be greatly appreciated.
  - tinco 13y ago
    hey moe, I sent you an e-mail on the e-mail address listed in your HN profile. Would you care to reply? I'd really like to talk to you about this..
FooBarWidget 13y ago
FYI, I've initiated an investigation about your problem for you: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phusion-passenger/oVGAsITg8s4/5Y0RTIH8sQoJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phusion-passenger/oVGAsITg8s...

by moe 13y ago

FooBarWidget 13y ago

I'm pretty sure you literally said "popping up shareware nag-screens at random intervals" instead of "that's equivalen to", but whatever, I'll take your word for it, in good faith, that you did not edit your post and that I read your post wrong. Like I said before: errors during redeploy are not supposed to happen even in the open source version, and if they do happen then we are very interested in fixing them. Please tell us more. There is no need to spin this as being "dishonest". If you don't believe us, tell us about your problem, let us fix it, and verify for yourself that it is fixed. Only the facts matter. As for the Engine Yard and Uservoice.com post: 1. All problems that the Engine Yard post talked about, were fixed 2 days after they published that article (http://blog.phusion.nl/2012/09/21/the-right-way-to-deal-with-frozen-processes-on-unix/ http://blog.phusion.nl/2012/09/21/the-right-way-to-deal-with...). If you are still experiencing those problems, tell us, and we'll fix it. By the way, did you notice that EngineYard said something entirely different about Phusion Passenger and Unicorn later on? https://www.engineyard.com/articles/rails-server https://www.engineyard.com/articles/rails-server 2. Almost all problems that that the Uservoice.com talked about, have been fixed in Phusion Passenger 4.0, open source version. 3. There are also plenty of posts that describe migrating from Unicorn to Phusion Passenger, e.g. https://speakerdeck.com/arnvald/dot-dot-dot-but-we-had-to-kill-unicorns https://speakerdeck.com/arnvald/dot-dot-dot-but-we-had-to-ki.... So what does that mean? Experiences differ, for all sorts of reasons, some legit and some not (e.g. inefficient configuration). Neither kinds of posts automatically mean that Unicorn/Phusion Passenger is bad: there will always be people having problems with a particular technology. That's why we encourage people who have problems to contact our support forum.

moe 13y ago
I'm pretty sure you literally said "popping up shareware nag-screens at random intervals" instead of "that's equivalen to", but whatever, I'll take your word for it, in good faith, that you did not edit your post and that I read your post wrong. Wait, what... You edited this line into your reply hours after you initially posted it. Hoping I would miss it or something? And in this very edit you have the nerve to suggest I edit my comment after the fact to spin shit around? Look at the position of the 'popping up' phrase in my post. How would saying it in any way other than it's written make any sense, syntactically? And why would I claim passenger pops up literal nag screens, when everyone knows that's complete nonsense? I do appreciate you showing your true colors in this thread. I'll make sure to link to it every time I run into one of your 'PR excursions' in the future.
- FooBarWidget 13y ago
  In other news: I've been asking other online communities as well in the hope of finding other users who have experienced the kind of problem you reported (http://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1lceav/ask_rreddit_does_anybody_experience_errors_while/ http://www.reddit.com/r/ruby/comments/1lceav/ask_rreddit_doe...). Unfortunately I haven't received a single answer so far. Any feedback from you about the nature of the problem would be greatly appreciated.
- tinco 13y ago
  hey moe, I sent you an e-mail on the e-mail address listed in your HN profile. Would you care to reply? I'd really like to talk to you about this..

FooBarWidget 13y ago

FYI, I've initiated an investigation about your problem for you: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phusion-passenger/oVGAsITg8s4/5Y0RTIH8sQoJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phusion-passenger/oVGAsITg8s...