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I hadn't thought the original piece was a takedown - she came across as sharp-elbowed but effective. But well done this author for pointing out how it's basical

I hadn't thought the original piece was a takedown - she came across as sharp-elbowed but effective. But well done this author for pointing out how it's basically a grumble piece by the stuffed suits she is deposing.

pnathan 13y ago
The piece set itself up as "nuance", but there were a lot of nasty little digs there about the geek who didn't bother fitting into the social club.
- Svip 13y ago
  When was the last time you read something 'nuanced'?
- JulianMorrison 13y ago
  Why would she bother? I guess, I didn't read those as digs. I don't especially bother to fit into social clubs either. It may be a blind spot.
  - noarchy 13y ago
    In some workplaces, not fitting into the social clubs makes you a poor "cultural fit". You have to go to the right meetups, drink the right beers with the right people, and so on. Contract extensions and promotions depend on it. Thank goodness it doesn't work that way everywhere.
jfb 13y ago
I liked this piece, too, but I thought the comparisons to Steve Jobs were misplaced and detracted from the overall argument. I do think that there's a lot to the argument that the tone of much of the criticism about her is a function of the fact that she's a woman who's also a technician.
- wsc981 13y ago
  From what I've read, I had the impression that she has many Jobsian (for lack of a better word) qualities. Especially with regards to product design: apparently she was a perfectionist at Google, going so far as to even care about subtle color differences and the effect these had on people. As an engineer, I've always had more respect for managers with a technical background compared to managers with "just" an MBA, so in that regard I'm definitely interested in how Mayer's leadership will shape Yahoo - I think I would respect her as manager as I can only appreciate the opinions of people I respect in a work situation.

pnathan 13y ago

The piece set itself up as "nuance", but there were a lot of nasty little digs there about the geek who didn't bother fitting into the social club.

Svip 13y ago
When was the last time you read something 'nuanced'?
JulianMorrison 13y ago
Why would she bother? I guess, I didn't read those as digs. I don't especially bother to fit into social clubs either. It may be a blind spot.
- noarchy 13y ago
  In some workplaces, not fitting into the social clubs makes you a poor "cultural fit". You have to go to the right meetups, drink the right beers with the right people, and so on. Contract extensions and promotions depend on it. Thank goodness it doesn't work that way everywhere.

jfb 13y ago

I liked this piece, too, but I thought the comparisons to Steve Jobs were misplaced and detracted from the overall argument. I do think that there's a lot to the argument that the tone of much of the criticism about her is a function of the fact that she's a woman who's also a technician.

wsc981 13y ago
From what I've read, I had the impression that she has many Jobsian (for lack of a better word) qualities. Especially with regards to product design: apparently she was a perfectionist at Google, going so far as to even care about subtle color differences and the effect these had on people. As an engineer, I've always had more respect for managers with a technical background compared to managers with "just" an MBA, so in that regard I'm definitely interested in how Mayer's leadership will shape Yahoo - I think I would respect her as manager as I can only appreciate the opinions of people I respect in a work situation.