5 ms·

That's 4K words; each word seems to be 18 bits (assuming that's what "width" means). That's 9 kB by today's standards.

unwind 13y ago
Actually traditionally it's 9 KB, or 9 KiB if you're into the modern binary prefixes. 9 kB would be 9,000 bytes, but this seems to be (4,096 * 18) / 8 = 9,216 bytes, which is exactly 9 KB. Or maybe I'm just a hopeless old f*rt for caring about things like this, and the world needs to get off my lawn.
- Arnor 13y ago
  I obsess over these pedantic differences too and I'm <30 so don't feel too bad. repeatedly pitches 3.5" floppies onto your lawn NERD SHAME EDIT: It's been a while... 3.5"
  - derekp7 13y ago
    What must really drive you nuts about your 3.5" floppies are the fact that they are not 1.44 MB, or 1.44 MiB, or anything else that resembles 1.44 x some factor. They are actualy 1000 x 1024 x 1440 bytes (so 1440 KiB). The 1.44 on them is derived from a mixture of SI and Binary units.
    - Arnor 13y ago
      I was fortunate enough to stop using them long before it bothered me, but now it does!
    - mortehu 13y ago
      > 1000 x 1024 x 1440 I think you accidentally included a "1000 x".
      - derekp7 13y ago
        Yep, looks like I did. I'm having a hard time remembering memory and disk sizes so small. Actually, I think I meant for the 1440 to 1.44, so it is 1.44 x 1000 x 1024 (showing mixing the base-10 and base-2 units). So a MB in the 1.44 MB floppy is 1024 x 1000. Or, to put it another way, to get the number 1.44 out of 1474560 bytes, you first divide 1474560 by 1024, then by 1000. Weird.
  - wmf 13y ago
    3.25"... is that a Russian format?
    - jacquesm 13y ago
      It's not exactly the most common but it exists and no, it's not Russian: http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/325_inch.jpg http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/325_inch.jpg
ajross 13y ago
Typical usage was to pack 3 6-bit characters into a word on these machines if you weren't simply using it as integer data. So it's "really" something closer to 12k of text or (assuming all the computations fit in the different word sizes) 16k of integer/pointer data.
- jacquesm 13y ago
  There is some chance the 9th bit in each half-word was for parity.
  - ajross 13y ago
    Oh sure, "real" English text processing only ever worked with EBCDIC and ASCII (and obviously everyone else in the world had to wait for yet another bit to be added). But an awful lot of work was done with all the caps-only sixbit encodings (like BCDIC -- without the E), including source code and documentation that we all would view as classic "text" tasks these days. The only real point was that early computers were packing an awful lot of useful information into some really tiny quarters. Just four of these cores would have provided an environment very similar in space to a C64.

Actually traditionally it's 9 KB, or 9 KiB if you're into the modern binary prefixes. 9 kB would be 9,000 bytes, but this seems to be (4,096 * 18) / 8 = 9,216 bytes, which is exactly 9 KB. Or maybe I'm just a hopeless old f*rt for caring about things like this, and the world needs to get off my lawn.

Arnor 13y ago
I obsess over these pedantic differences too and I'm <30 so don't feel too bad. repeatedly pitches 3.5" floppies onto your lawn NERD SHAME EDIT: It's been a while... 3.5"
- derekp7 13y ago
  What must really drive you nuts about your 3.5" floppies are the fact that they are not 1.44 MB, or 1.44 MiB, or anything else that resembles 1.44 x some factor. They are actualy 1000 x 1024 x 1440 bytes (so 1440 KiB). The 1.44 on them is derived from a mixture of SI and Binary units.
  - Arnor 13y ago
    I was fortunate enough to stop using them long before it bothered me, but now it does!
  - mortehu 13y ago
    > 1000 x 1024 x 1440 I think you accidentally included a "1000 x".
    - derekp7 13y ago
      Yep, looks like I did. I'm having a hard time remembering memory and disk sizes so small. Actually, I think I meant for the 1440 to 1.44, so it is 1.44 x 1000 x 1024 (showing mixing the base-10 and base-2 units). So a MB in the 1.44 MB floppy is 1024 x 1000. Or, to put it another way, to get the number 1.44 out of 1474560 bytes, you first divide 1474560 by 1024, then by 1000. Weird.
- wmf 13y ago
  3.25"... is that a Russian format?
  - jacquesm 13y ago
    It's not exactly the most common but it exists and no, it's not Russian: http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/325_inch.jpg http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/325_inch.jpg

ajross 13y ago

Typical usage was to pack 3 6-bit characters into a word on these machines if you weren't simply using it as integer data. So it's "really" something closer to 12k of text or (assuming all the computations fit in the different word sizes) 16k of integer/pointer data.

jacquesm 13y ago
There is some chance the 9th bit in each half-word was for parity.
- ajross 13y ago
  Oh sure, "real" English text processing only ever worked with EBCDIC and ASCII (and obviously everyone else in the world had to wait for yet another bit to be added). But an awful lot of work was done with all the caps-only sixbit encodings (like BCDIC -- without the E), including source code and documentation that we all would view as classic "text" tasks these days. The only real point was that early computers were packing an awful lot of useful information into some really tiny quarters. Just four of these cores would have provided an environment very similar in space to a C64.