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- Where do I put my binaries ? in /usr/bin of course - But it's kinda personal stuff... so put it in /usr/local/bin - Oh right, but now I have more stuff th

by jvehent 13y ago

- Where do I put my binaries ? in /usr/bin of course - But it's kinda personal stuff... so put it in /usr/local/bin - Oh right, but now I have more stuff that's not really important but still useful that's what we have /opt for - but... what if it's optional and only on my machine oh hell, just create /opt/local/bin and be done with it already!

jjindev 13y ago
wasn't /usr the original /home? as I understand it, it grew and became a system directory. with /bin as the original bin.
- yebyen 13y ago
  On FreeBSD, /home is actually a symlink to /usr/home
claudius 13y ago
But even /opt/local/bin (a construct I’ve never seen…) is just one letter longer than ‘Program Files’ – so at least they got the "not too long" bit right.
- mintplant 13y ago
  `Program Files` would actually be `C:\Program Files` (or the equivalent) if you're going for an absolute path. So `/opt/local/bin` comes out to two letters shorter.
  - claudius 13y ago
    Hence ‘even’, saying that even the full path is only one letter longer than the single directory name. :) Though, really, I have never seen /opt/local/bin – /usr/bin for package-manager owned stuff, /usr/local/bin for stuff not owned by the package manager and /opt/<Vendor> for weird things…
  - gnaritas 13y ago
    /opt/local/bin contains no spaces and thus doesn't require quoting or escaping and is thus more than two shorter in actual use.
ch0wn 13y ago
You missed `/bin/`, `/sbin/`, `/usr/bin/`, `/usr/sbin/` and the same in `/usr/local`. Luckily there are some efforts to clean this up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
- masklinn 13y ago
  And ~/bin as well.
  - brudgers 13y ago
    etc
    - zaius 13y ago
      I think I would actually be happy with a ~/etc. Dotfiles in the home directory needs to stop being a thing.
pavanky 13y ago
As opposed to windows where the user binaries are not located in a central location, I'd take this any day of the week. You can't blame *nix for having too much choice. Especially when it's coherent.
- TylerE 13y ago
  I actually find unix worse here, as I rarely care about where the binary is (and `which` will happily tell me on the rare occasions that I do), but I often need to find various supporting files. Are they in /usr/share? /usr/local/share? /opt/fooprog? (in the olden days /usr/X11R6/share, or many other variants).
  - codeflo 13y ago
    There are efforts to fix this. In Arch Linux, all binaries are now in /usr/bin, and /bin is just a symlink to /usr/bin.
    - TylerE 13y ago
      That's not my problem. My problem is: Where is the template file for xyz, or the doc, or the example config, or ...
      - pavanky 13y ago
        What are the equivalent locations for windows ? Also almost all programs installed via the package manager will use the same paths. If you are installing a package manually, then things get more.. interesting.
        TylerE 13y ago
        Practically universally: C:/Program Files/FooProg
        qu4z-2 13y ago
junto 13y ago
ahhhhh, so /usr/bin isn't the recycle bin...

by jvehent 13y ago

jjindev 13y ago

wasn't /usr the original /home? as I understand it, it grew and became a system directory. with /bin as the original bin.

yebyen 13y ago
On FreeBSD, /home is actually a symlink to /usr/home

claudius 13y ago

But even /opt/local/bin (a construct I’ve never seen…) is just one letter longer than ‘Program Files’ – so at least they got the "not too long" bit right.

mintplant 13y ago
`Program Files` would actually be `C:\Program Files` (or the equivalent) if you're going for an absolute path. So `/opt/local/bin` comes out to two letters shorter.
- claudius 13y ago
  Hence ‘even’, saying that even the full path is only one letter longer than the single directory name. :) Though, really, I have never seen /opt/local/bin – /usr/bin for package-manager owned stuff, /usr/local/bin for stuff not owned by the package manager and /opt/<Vendor> for weird things…
- gnaritas 13y ago
  /opt/local/bin contains no spaces and thus doesn't require quoting or escaping and is thus more than two shorter in actual use.

ch0wn 13y ago

You missed `/bin/`, `/sbin/`, `/usr/bin/`, `/usr/sbin/` and the same in `/usr/local`. Luckily there are some efforts to clean this up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove

masklinn 13y ago
And ~/bin as well.
- brudgers 13y ago
  etc
  - zaius 13y ago
    I think I would actually be happy with a ~/etc. Dotfiles in the home directory needs to stop being a thing.

pavanky 13y ago

As opposed to windows where the user binaries are not located in a central location, I'd take this any day of the week. You can't blame *nix for having too much choice. Especially when it's coherent.

TylerE 13y ago
I actually find unix worse here, as I rarely care about where the binary is (and `which` will happily tell me on the rare occasions that I do), but I often need to find various supporting files. Are they in /usr/share? /usr/local/share? /opt/fooprog? (in the olden days /usr/X11R6/share, or many other variants).
- codeflo 13y ago
  There are efforts to fix this. In Arch Linux, all binaries are now in /usr/bin, and /bin is just a symlink to /usr/bin.
  - TylerE 13y ago
    That's not my problem. My problem is: Where is the template file for xyz, or the doc, or the example config, or ...
    - pavanky 13y ago
      What are the equivalent locations for windows ? Also almost all programs installed via the package manager will use the same paths. If you are installing a package manually, then things get more.. interesting.
      - TylerE 13y ago
        Practically universally: C:/Program Files/FooProg
        qu4z-2 13y ago

junto 13y ago

ahhhhh, so /usr/bin isn't the recycle bin...