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Right. You don't buy software, you license it. This is no different than buying a poster of some sports star. You can hang it on your wall, but you don't have

Right. You don't buy software, you license it. This is no different than buying a poster of some sports star. You can hang it on your wall, but you don't have the legal right to photocopy and redistribute it. I'm not arguing that one shouldn't build a Hackintosh, and I'm not making any moral arguments against piracy or the DMCA. I'm just pointing out that use of software outside the bounds of the license agreement is at least grounds for a civil suit.

dhimes 17y ago
This is no different than buying a poster of some sports star. You can hang it on your wall,... Except Apple is telling you that you can only hang it on walls painted with Apple branded paint.
- ShabbyDoo 17y ago
  Yes, and that's their right. We can argue that we don't like it, but its no different than me licensing Hanna Montana's likeness for a toothbrush I'm producing (no, I'm not!). I'd have the right to put her pretty face on the toothbrush but not anywhere else. I understand the laws to be well established here. If you don't like it, use Ubuntu. I understand a moral argument, but pragmatic ones are of little use here.
  - dhimes 17y ago
    No, ShabbyDoo, it's not their right at all. It's very different if you are selling the toothbrush for profit. And I'd allow that it could be different if you were a professional room designer and licensed the poster as part of your design for a client. But them forbidding me from placing a poster on my own wall with any background paint I choose is absurd. Things only become "their right" if we weakly sit by and let it. We are allowed to control what is allowed in contracts and licenses. We can legislate that. In fact, it's our responsibility to do so. Some people have a hard time going from abstract to concrete, so the analogies in discussions like this are actually quite useful. (read: moral/pragmatic). And anyway, I roll with Fedora.

dhimes 17y ago

This is no different than buying a poster of some sports star. You can hang it on your wall,... Except Apple is telling you that you can only hang it on walls painted with Apple branded paint.

ShabbyDoo 17y ago
Yes, and that's their right. We can argue that we don't like it, but its no different than me licensing Hanna Montana's likeness for a toothbrush I'm producing (no, I'm not!). I'd have the right to put her pretty face on the toothbrush but not anywhere else. I understand the laws to be well established here. If you don't like it, use Ubuntu. I understand a moral argument, but pragmatic ones are of little use here.
- dhimes 17y ago
  No, ShabbyDoo, it's not their right at all. It's very different if you are selling the toothbrush for profit. And I'd allow that it could be different if you were a professional room designer and licensed the poster as part of your design for a client. But them forbidding me from placing a poster on my own wall with any background paint I choose is absurd. Things only become "their right" if we weakly sit by and let it. We are allowed to control what is allowed in contracts and licenses. We can legislate that. In fact, it's our responsibility to do so. Some people have a hard time going from abstract to concrete, so the analogies in discussions like this are actually quite useful. (read: moral/pragmatic). And anyway, I roll with Fedora.