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The lunacy of trying to avoid NSA spying by moving tech out of the US
- mark_l_watson 13y agoExcept: losing jobs and business in USA will help sway public opinion against broad scale undirected mass surveillance.
- anologwintermut 13y agoSway the public against undirected mass domestic surveillance, maybe. Conveniently, all the NSA's targets would then be foreign and subject to almost no review. So you have to worry both about the NSA and any local agencies. The reality, if you are worried about US/UK/FR/DE/RU/CN intelligence, don't use the cloud.
- serf 13y agoexactly, and i've heard that sentiment a LOT more than i've heard the "let's move to europe" idea.
- userulluipeste 13y agoThe lunacy is to limit yourself thinking about self-regulations that an authority supposedly has to deal with. Fact - the authority will get over that, and then there is nothing you can do but to submit to any of its demands, like it or not. Those who move outside of the known surveillance regimes may still be monitored (illegally), but that's all. They will have the freedom to defend themselves from clandestine access and the most important - not be forced to submit to onerous demands.
- imrehg 13y agoOne big point of the whole debate is that they DON'T actually jump through a lot of hoops to "listen in to your e-mail, cloud data transfers, phone calls, whatever." They just do it, and force the companies to comply, and if necessary, then lie to the courts. And my communication might be "fair game" outside - IF they get to it. With an American company the question is just WHEN will they get to it.