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Go seems to be hitting some kind of tipping point where it's going from being more of a niche thing with a small user base to something with a broader appeal. I
by programminggeek 13y ago
Go seems to be hitting some kind of tipping point where it's going from being more of a niche thing with a small user base to something with a broader appeal. I don't think that it's because go is changing so much as the kinds of problems people are encountering writing web services that need to scale (or at least have that option).
I've been comparing go to scala lately and what has really got me into go is the development speed. The fast compiles and fast web page auto-reload make it feel every bit as fast to develop in as ruby or python or php, but with type safety, fewer tests, and very clean code.
Scala is a fantastic language, but even with jrebel autoreload you still have 2-3 second page reloads and a 5 second test suite reload. That seems like a small thing, but the faster I see code change results, the more hooked I am to the process. A 5 second wait is probably enough to get me out of the zone.
With go, on just a default simple test of a small thing it is less than a second to compile/run. In revel, pages reload/update as fast/faster than they do in rails/sinatra.
Oh, and with go, each web request will run in a separate goroutine, so you get excellent nonblocking IO performance without dealing with the callback soup of node.js.
It might just be irrational exuberance because I haven't built anything big and messy yet, but so far go is seriously fantastic and solves a lot of real world problems elegantly.
- illumen 13y agoSo you've enjoyed all the marketing and Google employee upvoting?
- untog 13y agoSo you ignored the part where the OP described having actually used it in development and liking it?
- weego 13y agoI think we need more than 1 account of Go in production before we start high-fiving each other about Go in the mainstream. And to be fair to the person you are responding too, there has been an inordinate amount of Go articles on HN over the last few months compared to anywhere else on the internet tech/dev wise, so much so that a number of my friends have independently made a joke of it.
- thezilch 13y agoThere are plenty accounts of Go in production: (Google's dl.google.com) https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golang-nuts/BNUNbKSypE0/E4qSfpx9qI8J https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golang-nuts/BNUNbKSypE0/E4qS..., (CloudFlare's Railgun) http://blog.cloudflare.com/go-at-cloudflare http://blog.cloudflare.com/go-at-cloudflare, (Bit.ly) http://word.bitly.com/post/29550171827/go-go-gadget http://word.bitly.com/post/29550171827/go-go-gadget, (SoundCloud) http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/ http://backstage.soundcloud.com/2012/07/go-at-soundcloud/, (Disqus's realtime-backend) http://blog.disqus.com/post/51155103801/trying-out-this-go-thing http://blog.disqus.com/post/51155103801/trying-out-this-go-t..., etc
- voidlogic 13y ago>I think we need more than 1 account of Go in production before we start high-fiving each other about Go in the mainstream. I've been programming in Go full time since Go 1.0. Lots of companies use Go: http://golang.cat-v.org/organizations-using-go http://golang.cat-v.org/organizations-using-go -And that is list out of date and not maintained. For example, companies like Mozilla and Walmart are not on that out of date list.
- bketelsen 13y agoagreed - we've been using Go in production since before 1.0 and I know of many other high profile companies using it that aren't publicizing their usage for whatever reason. There is no question of whether Go works in production under loads. That has been asked and answered, your honor.
- _ak 13y ago> I think we need more than 1 account of Go in production before we start high-fiving each other about Go in the mainstream. http://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers http://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/GoUsers http://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/SuccessStories http://code.google.com/p/go-wiki/wiki/SuccessStories Just sayin'.
- carimura 13y ago
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- tptacek 13y agoComments like this never, ever improve threads.
- weego 13y agoThe other thing that never improves threads is everyone only posting what they think might get upvoted instead of saying what they actually think, especially when there might be a grain of truth in it. Tedious comment back-patting is the death of good communities.
- gruseom 13y agoHow about we avoid both trollish sarcasm and tedious back-patting, and say what we really think politely? That's not so hard.
- ulisesrmzroche 13y agoEveryone's gotta cool it with that meta-modding too. I'm sick of scrolling through tons of knight-in-shining-armor comments to get to the actual discussion tucked at the bottom of the page.
- WayneDB 13y agoYes they do. I learned that there are lots of places using golang in production, without even having to ask.
- tptacek 13y agoI think you misread my comment.
- thezilch 13y agoAs much as you've enjoyed the "GENERICS OR BUST" and anti-Google, downvoting crowds.
- _ak 13y agoYes, it's all a conspiracy! Because that's how open source development at Google work: create shitty technology, spam HN, Reddit et al. with it, and then let the massive Google workforce and the fanboys upvote the postings. /s
- swah 13y agoTheir philosophies are so different, though. Mostly the only thing they have in common is being "modern" in their own ways.
- eranation 13y agoOh, painful point, I still try to ignore Scala's compile time and hope it will improve in the future, (it does gradually on every release) but when I do, then Scala feels a bit more natural to me than Go (it feels closer to Ruby for me, which I like, and has the Java interop aspect, which I unfortunately need). I just close my eyes, do sbt ~test-quick, and hope for the best. It's just that Scala feels to me more like a statically typed Ruby, where in Go I need to shift some paradigms and do some mental twists to accept how great it is.
- carimura 13y agoA long tipping point, but one indeed.