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I was using boring to be the opposite of charming. Maybe boorish is a better word. However, although it is counterintuitive, I stand my ground. My job (until I
by menloparkbum 17y ago
I was using boring to be the opposite of charming. Maybe boorish is a better word.
However, although it is counterintuitive, I stand my ground. My job (until I stopped doing it) involved a weird intersection of art and technology. My roommates (when I had them) have all been artists. I know every gallery owner in San Francisco, I help set up friend's shows. Art is sort of "my thing" outside of programming. Thus I feel like I know a little bit about that world. The guys simply are not getting any. Sexual frustration is probably one of the driving factors for most contemporary art. The better the art, the less sex the artist is having. At a certain point the art becomes good enough to result in an odd sort of fame and fortune and then the artist may get to have sex again. However it's still less frequent than you'd think just because visual art does not carry the same cultural cachet as music, movies, pro wrestling or reality TV.
I know less about musicians but I used to be a really good jazz pianist and that got me nowhere with women. In fact it's taken years of heavy drinking to expunge all knowledge of jazz and piano from my system, and it still surfaces from time to time, rendering me involuntarily celibate. Have you been to a jazz show lately? It's all nerdy dudes. You'll have better luck with women by making inappropriate presentations at a ruby programming conference than you will by being a jazz musician. I snuck out to a jazz show last weekend and when I got home I lied to my girlfriend and told her I had met up with an ex for a drink. I knew she'd find that more forgivable. Of course, when people say musician these days they don't mean a jazz musician, they mean the Jonas Brothers and Dave Matthews. Sure, those guys are getting laid, probably even with similarly aged fans. But for every famous pop musician there are thousands of real musicians slaving away at their instrument with little hope of future procreation. Just read some Zed Shaw, he supposedly practices guitar 8 hours a day and you can tell by the tone of his rants that he hasn't had sex in almost a decade.
Now what about that statistic that said people who majored in studio art were 0% virgins? I'll grant that artists who go to art school definitely do get laid... while they are at art school. It's well established that art school chicks are the easiest women on the planet. I taught a "programming for artists" type course at an art school once and not a class session went by when I wasn't at least vaguely propositioned, and I was the instructor. Even the ugly fat dude who is supremely awesome at airbrushing dragons will get laid ONCE at art school. However, that's only because the messed up female artist who makes hand puppets out of her own hair decided to use the sexual encounter as the final project for her conceptual art elective. Once all these people get out of art school, the women all date gallery owners and lawyers and the guys never have sex again.
- TriinT 17y agoYou should write a book. Seriously. I love that rare blend of guilt, frustration and bitterness. Hackers and painters. Nerds and artists. Neither one nor the other is destined to spawn. They may be lucky enough to leave their tiny mark on the planet with their ideas & creations, but not with their genes.
- plinkplonk 17y ago"You should write a book. Seriously. I love that rare blend of guilt, frustration and bitterness. " heh heh! Just my 2 cents, but being some kind of musician does get you laid in my experience. I am a very mediocre musician (I have no "instinct" for music I play very "mathematically", but hey I enjoy the playing) and am not handsome by any means, but my guitar playing (sucky as it is) has got me (and the other members of my rather ad hoc band) laid regularly. I think of being somewhat good at music as a "hack" to take care of the getting laid part (serious relationships are a different story).. And to be somewhat at music (vs being really good at it) takes only a year or so of practice so it is a good investment. So if all you want to do is get laid without too much effort, picking up a musical instrument maybe worth your while. The guitar is easy (compared to, say, the violin). form some kind of band and play at parties. As I said, I am not discounting or challenging your (menloparkbum's) experience. just my 2 cents. YMMV
- ssanders82 17y agoHmm, so maybe the hypothesis here should be "guitar playing gets you laid, jazz piano doesn't". Damn. I just started to teach myself piano...
- gaius 17y agoThe music itself is irrelevant. If you're on stage performing anything and people are paying attention, then you are the de-facto Alpha Male, and that trumps every other factor for attractiveness to females (for short-term relationships/one-night stands).