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Ah yes, such courage. No white southern male has ever had the daring to cobble together soundbite-derived factoids and unabashed generalizations into a complete

Ah yes, such courage. No white southern male has ever had the daring to cobble together soundbite-derived factoids and unabashed generalizations into a complete theory about how everything could be fixed if The Blacks would just stop blaming everyone else and hiding from The Facts. This is certainly the first time I've seen it.

JPKab 13y ago
You do not know me, and I resent your implication that my statements were assembled from soundbites. At no point did I say anything remotely like what you interpreted. I don't at all think "the Blacks" are blaming everyone else, and I said no such thing. You have clearly made assumptions about me based on me being a "white southern male" and judged my statements based on your own caricatures. If I'm the racist you accuse me of being, then why am I married to an Asian woman? Why did I grow up attending black churches (which is where I first heard members of the black community in my town speaking out against the "acting white" taunting)? Why was I the best man in my best friend's wedding recently, a wedding between a black man and an Asian American woman? The same black man who is a fucking pillar of our community and was taunted, beaten, and bullied for "acting white" by awful human beings who happened to be black. I'm not an idiot. I don't blame "the Blacks" for the awful and continuing effects of 400 years of slavery combined with 100+ years of Jim Crow. Any cultural/ethnic group that survives a 500 year rape is going to have horrific and lasting effects to deal with. But hey, I'm just a southern white man, so let me go pick up my banjo, and find my sheets for the klan rally tonight. We're gettin us some of that lectricity so we's a celebratin'. Please, go on and enjoy your day feeling pompous and superior. I doubt you've ever even spent the night in a black person's house, let alone attended a black church, but you sir, are, by nature of your not being southern, more culturally enlightened than me. You smack of being the typical suburban raised white person who was raised in a de facto segregated community, and now does whatever he can to distance himself from it by pointing at others and calling them racist.
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- jessedhillon 13y ago
  Err, neither am I white nor a stranger to black people. Spending the night with one, or marrying one, doesn't make you less racist. What you were writing is very patronizing and sounds uninformed. You can spend your whole life around people and still have no clue what their lives are really about. I mean, to trot out the "seven times" figure with no context and expect us to treat it like it provides justification for anything is a gross misapplication of statistics. I also was not raised in the suburbs, but a place that is rural, white and very hostile to anyone who isn't. EDIT: Moreover, the mere fact that you would trot out the existence of your Asian wife as proof of your non-racism against blacks is proof enough. It's demonstrative of your us-them mindset: see, you can't be racist, you're married to one of them. Nevermind that Asians are not blacks -- it's just that they're not white, and you can't be racist if you like a non-white, right? (Hint: not right)
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  - JPKab 13y ago
    You are cherry-picking my words. My Asian wife proves I'm not a racist, period. White racists are pretty much exclusively hateful towards anyone who isn't white. Neo-Nazis, KKK, if you're not a "certain kind" of European, they don't like you. But you know that, and you are reaching. I have a former coworker with the surname "Dhillon", whose ancestry is Punjabi. Maybe you are south Asian, or maybe I'm completely fucking wrong in my assumption. You're not black, and as you said you grew up in a mostly white area. You are no more an authority than I am on any of this. The only difference is that due to the demographics of the particular region of the country I was raised in, most of my friends, neighbors, and schoolmates were native born African Americans. The notion that, because of the color of my skin, I have no right to comment on what I saw and extrapolate it refutes logic. Does this mean that you, as a non-white person who lived in a predominantly white, rural area, are immediately disqualified from commenting on the odd habits of the whites (you labelled them hostile to non-whites) in your neighborhood? Doesn't this mean you are doing the same thing that I did?
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newnewnew 13y ago
The facts are striking, and surprisingly unknown[1]. For example, just 1% of the US population commits 27% of the murder. Can you guess which demographic group that is? Can you imagine a politician giving a speech about that? [1] http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_race_steve_sailer/print http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_race_steve_sailer/print

JPKab 13y ago

You do not know me, and I resent your implication that my statements were assembled from soundbites. At no point did I say anything remotely like what you interpreted. I don't at all think "the Blacks" are blaming everyone else, and I said no such thing. You have clearly made assumptions about me based on me being a "white southern male" and judged my statements based on your own caricatures. If I'm the racist you accuse me of being, then why am I married to an Asian woman? Why did I grow up attending black churches (which is where I first heard members of the black community in my town speaking out against the "acting white" taunting)? Why was I the best man in my best friend's wedding recently, a wedding between a black man and an Asian American woman? The same black man who is a fucking pillar of our community and was taunted, beaten, and bullied for "acting white" by awful human beings who happened to be black. I'm not an idiot. I don't blame "the Blacks" for the awful and continuing effects of 400 years of slavery combined with 100+ years of Jim Crow. Any cultural/ethnic group that survives a 500 year rape is going to have horrific and lasting effects to deal with. But hey, I'm just a southern white man, so let me go pick up my banjo, and find my sheets for the klan rally tonight. We're gettin us some of that lectricity so we's a celebratin'. Please, go on and enjoy your day feeling pompous and superior. I doubt you've ever even spent the night in a black person's house, let alone attended a black church, but you sir, are, by nature of your not being southern, more culturally enlightened than me. You smack of being the typical suburban raised white person who was raised in a de facto segregated community, and now does whatever he can to distance himself from it by pointing at others and calling them racist.

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jessedhillon 13y ago
Err, neither am I white nor a stranger to black people. Spending the night with one, or marrying one, doesn't make you less racist. What you were writing is very patronizing and sounds uninformed. You can spend your whole life around people and still have no clue what their lives are really about. I mean, to trot out the "seven times" figure with no context and expect us to treat it like it provides justification for anything is a gross misapplication of statistics. I also was not raised in the suburbs, but a place that is rural, white and very hostile to anyone who isn't. EDIT: Moreover, the mere fact that you would trot out the existence of your Asian wife as proof of your non-racism against blacks is proof enough. It's demonstrative of your us-them mindset: see, you can't be racist, you're married to one of them. Nevermind that Asians are not blacks -- it's just that they're not white, and you can't be racist if you like a non-white, right? (Hint: not right)
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- JPKab 13y ago
  You are cherry-picking my words. My Asian wife proves I'm not a racist, period. White racists are pretty much exclusively hateful towards anyone who isn't white. Neo-Nazis, KKK, if you're not a "certain kind" of European, they don't like you. But you know that, and you are reaching. I have a former coworker with the surname "Dhillon", whose ancestry is Punjabi. Maybe you are south Asian, or maybe I'm completely fucking wrong in my assumption. You're not black, and as you said you grew up in a mostly white area. You are no more an authority than I am on any of this. The only difference is that due to the demographics of the particular region of the country I was raised in, most of my friends, neighbors, and schoolmates were native born African Americans. The notion that, because of the color of my skin, I have no right to comment on what I saw and extrapolate it refutes logic. Does this mean that you, as a non-white person who lived in a predominantly white, rural area, are immediately disqualified from commenting on the odd habits of the whites (you labelled them hostile to non-whites) in your neighborhood? Doesn't this mean you are doing the same thing that I did?
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newnewnew 13y ago

The facts are striking, and surprisingly unknown[1]. For example, just 1% of the US population commits 27% of the murder. Can you guess which demographic group that is? Can you imagine a politician giving a speech about that? [1] http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_race_steve_sailer/print http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_race_steve_sailer/print