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Luckily for you then, since you already have AdBlock installed, you won't see the adverts. Or is their rationale that advertising serves the legitimate purpose

by kamjam 13y ago

Luckily for you then, since you already have AdBlock installed, you won't see the adverts. Or is their rationale that advertising serves the legitimate purpose of informing users about choices they may not realize they have? Exactly. Believe or not, most people on HN are computer savvy. There are some users who are not aware of AdBlock. Personally I have installed it on a number of friends and family computers, and guess what, it has reduced the amount of adware and malware they install.

lutusp 13y ago
> Luckily for you then, since you already have AdBlock installed, you won't see the adverts. Actually, AdBlock is making the new ad appear to those who have AdBlock installed -- I just saw my AdBlock icon light up and, when clicked, display this ad: http://i.imgur.com/Kwi9qmD.png http://i.imgur.com/Kwi9qmD.png I don't think we're in Kansas any more, Dorothy.
- kamjam 13y ago
  Actually, AdBlock is making the new ad appear to those who have AdBlock installed I saw the same thing, but that's not exactly the same thing as seeing ads, they're not (AFAIK) only showing AdBlock ads... they're informing you of something they are implementing in a hidden way. If you really take offence to what they are doing then you (and not directed at you per se) - Uninstall AdBlock - View ads on websites, maybe click on them occasionally so click-through rates increase - Install Adblock Plus, because it's not the ad blocking that you are specifically against, just the fact they are advertising The point is, you have options, and they are presenting options to potential users. This is how things work in a free-market economy. We're not living under a totally facist regime just yet...
  - lutusp 13y ago
    > I saw the same thing, but that's not exactly the same thing as seeing ads, they're not (AFAIK) only showing AdBlock ads... they're informing you of something they are implementing in a hidden way. I think it counts as an advertisement, and I'm not complaining, only observing. I just thought there was more than a touch of irony in AdBlock showing an ad within the AdBlock app. > We're not living under a totally facist regime just yet... Interesting comparison. A regime that forced us to watch ads could be described as Fascist, as could one that blocked all ads regardless of people's tastes. Anything that prevented free choice.
    - kamjam 13y ago
      I don't think the irony is missed on anyone, no doubt the AdBlock guys them themselves... and the ability to watch or not watch ads is not the point I was making. The point is we have a choice of whether to use or not use, either Adblock, AdBlock plus, something else or nothing at all. But more so, the general state of the web and the big brother on everything. It's a slippery slope :)
      - lutusp 13y ago
        > But more so, the general state of the web and the big brother on everything. It's a slippery slope :) I couldn't agree more. I was posting on Usenet before there was a Web, so I've seen the entire sequence of events. Rather depressing overall. But it could be worse -- we could be hunted down and killed for expressing dissent, for protesting, for supporting unpopular causes. When I say this, I'm thinking of this man: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/narendra-dabholkar-shot-dead-pune-pushing-law-against-superstition/1/300345.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/narendra-dabholkar-shot-d... This man, this doctor, was an activist against unscientific quackery. He became too well-known and too effective, so his enemies hired a hit squad. And this was in India, a country and people that revere democracy and free speech.

by kamjam 13y ago

lutusp 13y ago

> Luckily for you then, since you already have AdBlock installed, you won't see the adverts. Actually, AdBlock is making the new ad appear to those who have AdBlock installed -- I just saw my AdBlock icon light up and, when clicked, display this ad: http://i.imgur.com/Kwi9qmD.png http://i.imgur.com/Kwi9qmD.png I don't think we're in Kansas any more, Dorothy.

kamjam 13y ago
Actually, AdBlock is making the new ad appear to those who have AdBlock installed I saw the same thing, but that's not exactly the same thing as seeing ads, they're not (AFAIK) only showing AdBlock ads... they're informing you of something they are implementing in a hidden way. If you really take offence to what they are doing then you (and not directed at you per se) - Uninstall AdBlock - View ads on websites, maybe click on them occasionally so click-through rates increase - Install Adblock Plus, because it's not the ad blocking that you are specifically against, just the fact they are advertising The point is, you have options, and they are presenting options to potential users. This is how things work in a free-market economy. We're not living under a totally facist regime just yet...
- lutusp 13y ago
  > I saw the same thing, but that's not exactly the same thing as seeing ads, they're not (AFAIK) only showing AdBlock ads... they're informing you of something they are implementing in a hidden way. I think it counts as an advertisement, and I'm not complaining, only observing. I just thought there was more than a touch of irony in AdBlock showing an ad within the AdBlock app. > We're not living under a totally facist regime just yet... Interesting comparison. A regime that forced us to watch ads could be described as Fascist, as could one that blocked all ads regardless of people's tastes. Anything that prevented free choice.
  - kamjam 13y ago
    I don't think the irony is missed on anyone, no doubt the AdBlock guys them themselves... and the ability to watch or not watch ads is not the point I was making. The point is we have a choice of whether to use or not use, either Adblock, AdBlock plus, something else or nothing at all. But more so, the general state of the web and the big brother on everything. It's a slippery slope :)
    - lutusp 13y ago
      > But more so, the general state of the web and the big brother on everything. It's a slippery slope :) I couldn't agree more. I was posting on Usenet before there was a Web, so I've seen the entire sequence of events. Rather depressing overall. But it could be worse -- we could be hunted down and killed for expressing dissent, for protesting, for supporting unpopular causes. When I say this, I'm thinking of this man: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/narendra-dabholkar-shot-dead-pune-pushing-law-against-superstition/1/300345.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/narendra-dabholkar-shot-d... This man, this doctor, was an activist against unscientific quackery. He became too well-known and too effective, so his enemies hired a hit squad. And this was in India, a country and people that revere democracy and free speech.